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It is worth noting that Paul makes a clear application of the story of Esau to the Jewish people in Romans 9, going on to explain that redemption for them is still possible if they repent and accept the Messiah, even though they forsook their birthright, because the calling of God is irrevocable.
The true children of Abraham, the heirs to the promise, are the church of God, the believers in Christ. The Jewish people can reclaim their election only if they enter the church, in which they would become one new man with the Gentiles. Until then, they have no connection to God, having severed themselves from their Covenant, and they cannot obtain God’s blessings, especially since no remnant exists among them (the believing Jews are members of the church, not the synagogue).
Another caller made an excellent point about the prophesy of regathering. Indeed, we have yet to see it take place. Christian Zionists jump the gun and say that the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment working itself out. The problem with this view lies in the fact that the promised land is not a physical kingdom. The promised land is the land of eternal life. Yes, there will be a kingdom on earth, but not in this age. Ultimately, the regathering will be the redemption of souls, not the granting of worldly privileges. (This idea that some Evangelicals have that Jesus will return and rule from the Knesset or whatever is an absurdity.)
Again, one has to ask, to what end did God give a parcel of land to the Jews? He gave them a nation so that they would look to their real home, to their true nation: Heaven. But Zionism is the carnal aspirations of the blind guides coming back to haunt us. Zionists are not thinking in spiritual terms. They are thinking not as God thinks, but as men think.
See ‘The Valley of the Dry Bones’ spoken by Ezekiel.Then see the promise God made to Abraham and his descendants. The only one who passed through in order that the promise would be kept was God himself.
It is sad to see so many people antisemitic today. I’ve been to Israel a few times on Uncle Sam’s dime and I know it to be one of the few places on Earth where Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship as they see fit along side the most gay friendly city on Earth Tel Aviv. If that doesn’t scream freedom nothing does.
The coming Kingdom of Heaven will be the dominion of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Lord’s Kingdom will be for those who are of Abraham’s stock spiritually, through faith. Daniel says, The saints of the Most High took possession of the Kingdom. Note that the prophet does not specifically identify the Jewish people, but rather “the saints.” What does this tell us? It tells us that a homeland for the Jews is not in the plan of God. No, God intends to create a homeland for believers, an amalgamation of all peoples, in the realm of his Son. This is the regathering. It is through the church: it is now, in the saving of souls, and it will be in the Resurrection. Therefore, an ethnic homeland for any particular group is quite irrelevant. If that entity in the Middle East which we call the State of “Israel” is not the Kingdom of Christ on the earth, then what is it exactly? For one thing, the Bible identifies the worldly Jerusalem as “Sodom and Egypt.” This should tell us something.
That Jerusalem was called Sodom and Egypt over 2000 years ago, does not mean that it is now. The term “saints” in almost every place in scripture is a synonym for Israel, especially believing, practicing Israel. Those that have been called by YHWH to be the light of the world are set apart ones (saints) by virtue of His calling. Those that do YHWH’s commandments are considered saints…for they are literally being holy as YHWH is holy…being set apart to Him. Those that wish to be a part of YHWH’s set apart/holy people (saints) must be grafted into Israel.
Those that are set apart ones (saints) only by virtue of YHWH choosing them to be His light to the world must turn to Messiah to be saints in spirit. Those that are of the nations must be grafted into Israel and apply themselves to YHWH’s commandments to be considered saints. The saints in the end that will rule with Messiah will be those that believe in Y’shua and keep YHWH’s commandments. Their name is Israel.
John sees 2 kinds of lairs. Those that say they know YHWH but do not keep his commandments and those that do not believe in Y’shua. We must do both to be considered truly saints.
1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Re 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
Re 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Both Jew and gentile must be a part of the olive tree of Israel by faith.
Ro 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Those that boast that they have been grafted in but do not keep YHWH’s commandments are going to find themselves out of the kingdom or least in the kingdom depending on their disregard of YHWH’s commandments.
Mt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but /only/ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
23 Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Saint means holy person. Holy means set apart. A person can be a saint (set apart to YHWH) on two levels. One by virtue of YHWH choosing someone for Himself and them accepting that call. The other by subjecting one’s self to YHWH’s commandments. Both are necessary.
So Noelle, be careful in thinking that you are a saint and that those of Israel are not. You might find out that your rejection of YHWH’s commandments gets the same punishment as their rejection of Y’shua.
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