Four Blood Moons

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Dr. Brown interviews Astrophysicist Jeff Zweerink and Philosopher and theologian Kenneth Richard Samples from Reasons to Believe about the four blood moons phenomenon. Is there prophetic significance to these moons, or is this just another example of Christian prophetic sensationalism. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.


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  1. No one is makeing a claim of a date, this is a watch… Given the historic timing of these tetrads a (watch) like a tornado watch is appropriate.
    RE the watch tower and Haggi’s excitement the biggest difference is that Haggi is not a replacement theologian. Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon’s and Jehovah’s Wittneses were and are all replacements. Haggi does see clearly as Blaise Pascal saw how God has worked wonder’s in Israel. I am not expecting advanced degree’s and science person’s to ever connect the dots in advance, it takes a Pascal to do this. The king of France did not ask just anyone with a science degree to give me clear proof of God, he asked the only one he could trust the answer to be the answer.
    Where today do any of us trust the advaced science and technology types- In global warming??
    In gay marriage?? evolution?? I am skeptical of the science guy, and for good reason.

  2. Count me among the skeptical on the “hype” over Blood Moons. The Scriptures that Hagee et al are banking on are the verses in Joel and Acts which CLEARLY speak of the Day of the Lord, a.k.a. The Second Coming. Yet when all the smoke of the hype is cleared away, the “suggestion” is left that it is these Scriptures that are about to be fulfilled, let them join Camping and SAY, “I believe the Second Coming is going to happen” or, in the case of Hagee, the Rapture or the Tribulation. Instead, when I hear the “predictions” it’s “something IMPORTANT is going to happen!”

    Anyone who follows Israeli news that EVERYDAY something IMPORTANT is happening in Israel! That’s the beauty of this kind of nonsense. It is left ambiguous such that there is no need to apologize. Most certainly something important WILL happen in Israel this year, and next, and every month and year UNTIL the Messiah really does return.

    I really appreciate the balance of Dr. Brown and the Reasons to Believe guests. They perfectly word the skepticism I have for this current prediction. By the way, I suspect the believers who hop on these periodic sensational bandwagons do it because they’re just plain too lazy to read the Scriptures for themselves. There is a massive amount of prophetic content in all of the Scripture regarding Israel and the last days and the Second Coming. BUT it takes reading it again and again and again, line upon line, to get to the Truth. And that’s just too much work for many believers. Like Ahimaaz (2 Sam. 18:19) they want to run, but they don’t care whether they have a message.

  3. Again i reiterate that this is a watch, and it deserves that classification.

    What tetrad in history has ever shown up in one region of the world for all four moons? Jeff highlighted that only one moon shows in Israel, however he did not talk about the significance of that particular moon, and timing of it. I can not blame him though it was never in a science book. Where is Pascal when you need him?

  4. I’m wondering if ever in history that four moons like this ever fell on 4 Jewish holidays within a year or so.

    So it’s on Passover and what was the other one?
    Was it Tabernacles?

    Maybe I should take it as a sign that sins are forgiven, so commune.

  5. The specifics behind it can be researched with remarkable coincidences. Jeff really did not know much about this event, he was only giving the science skepticism. He should spend some time looking at the tetrad history.

  6. Why is it that the other times these blood moons happened it happened a year or so after the supposed event it was bringing attention to? What kind of sign is that? At best this is a sign of something that will happen a year before the blood moons. Well it is less than a year till it happens and nothing happened. We are being duped again. There is no historic precedence connecting the blood moons with significant events in Hebrew history. Didn’t anyone notice the blood moons didn’t line up with past events? There is no guarantee that the moons will even be red. They could be dark gray, red, orange or yellow and there is no way to know until they come. Nothing to see here folks. If you Biblically want to impress me lets see the sun darken and the moon turn to blood. Since the sun has to be behind the earth and shinning in order to turn the moon red that doesn’t happen during blood moons. For the sun to darken and the moon to turn to blood it would require a miracle and would be a true sign.

  7. Eclipses and blood moons are fulfillment of Joel 2:30 are they not? It just says these things will happen before “the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” Just like rainbows are a sign of God’s promise not to flood the whole Earth again. So whenever we see an eclipse or blood moon I think we should be reminded of his promises rather than try to predict future events based on these signs.

  8. I was trying to imagine blood moons and what it might be like to see them.

    What if for example a blood red moon appeared right at Easter, and then one right at the Day of Atonement, or maybe on the day that Jesus was circumcised or something like that, and then next Easter, another one….

    Suppose these things were connected somehow to the blood of Christ and atonement of sin, on some exact days?

    I would think that would get some people attention, enough to say, “I wonder what’s going on?” ….Shouldn’t I suppose God knew this would happen this way, way back in the beginning when he made everything by Jesus Christ?”?

    I guess we will see what happens.

  9. To Mr. Sparks- We are being duped again? This event is so rare how many times have you been duped? In the last 522 years there has been three events. Were you duped in 1948 when Israel popped into existance after being nearly extinguished? Or did you get duped again in 1967 after Israel took control of old Jurusalem after nearly 2000 years of being scattered? I was too young to have been duped for either, but I can imagine after the Spanish inquisition in 1492 you wised up some.

  10. Dr. Brown – I sincerely hope you will consider interviewing Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries. He is the one who originally discovered the patterns in the tetrads and their connection to prophetic events in Israel. He has never been a date-setter and makes a compelling case for why these events may be something to watch. I feel your guests mischaracterized what Biltz has been saying for many years now and seemed ill-informed regarding what many believe about these events. It seems as if Mr. Hagee hijacked this information and sensationalized it. It’s unfortunate you based your information on his writings rather than going to Biltz. Signs are meant to be a warning to those who are watching – a sign that a bridge is out will come long before one reaches the actual bridge. The tetrads may be signs in the heavens to be alert. The whole world will NOT know/understand many of the signs of the times that precede His coming.

  11. I ask this as a question-

    I feel so strongly of where things are in prophecy right now, why do the counter missionaries not pick up on that if this “messiah” is who you say that he is if he is not returned by let’s say 2021 then your side is clearly wrong.

    That is a powerful position, and one that no rational thinking person would corner themselves into. However, this is actually where we truly are, and the best arguement out there could be to pin our whole stake on it. It is a vulnerable position, but one that would really take some faith to argue. Can we start staking this position? I think we can!

  12. In the 1600’s it was a wild position to hold that Israel would be restored. Who with any standing would have argued that? In yet you just had a guest on (Wilkerson) who gave examples of that position and were inprisoned on that very premise. Might I add were imprisoned by the king – King James!

    Why doesn’t Shmuley corner you with this arguement? If Yeshua is real he needs to present himself soon. How would you argue against that?

  13. R. Eleazar Chisma said, The laws concerning the sacrifices of birds and the purification of women are ordinances of the moment; astronomy and geometry are the after-courses of wisdom.

    Blaise Pascal knew that if he could take a geometric line (a true line.) He could base on it’s wisdom the very foundations of G_d. With the blood moon’s it means what it means. We do not assign meaning to it. If we look at astronomy can we not see the wisdom of G_d? We can be skeptical of the blood moon’s, however we know that wisdom is in the design of the universe.

  14. One last post on this blood moon’s.

    The people who are watching this with G_d’s prophetic time do this not as Millerites in the 1800’s with much prophecy still left, but as Watcher’s of G_d’s prophetic time clock Israel. Could the sun and the moon be parts to the clock?
    Israel is the greatest fulfillment of prophecy in the last 2000 years! I stand with the greatest fulfillment since the Messiah, and since the flood. Call me crazy, or too excited I will be both!

  15. Religions began when our hunter gatherer ancestors witnessed solar eclipses. It panicked them. However there was always one person who knew the event was temporary and advised the rest of the clan that with a little magic and some magic words he or she could make the sun come back. That person was the first priest, first leader who gained power through sophistry. Today religious leaders use the exact same kind of trickery to gain power over gullible believers and fleece them of their money. It’s a solar eclipse people and science can explain the event without trying to scare you to death. Wake up and take a sniff of reality.

  16. Van,

    You wrote:
    “Religions began when our hunter gatherer ancestors witnessed solar eclipses.”

    Now where is the proof of this statement? Nowhere. Your statement is an assertion without proof or even the possibility proof. Pulling things out of your magic hat to put a good face on your religion of naturalism is the real problem here. And now we know why you think that all religion is hocus pocus…because yours is. The only sophistry I see is in your statements…you believe in something and then invent stories to prove your faith.

  17. Dr. Eli, founder of “Jewish Studies for Christians” posted some thoughts and a video about the Blood Moons theory on his website.

    If Mr. Hagee talked over his findings with Orthodox rabbi’s why aren’t they raising their voices with dire warnings?

    Two of the blood moons heralded “good” things, like when he tied it into the U.N. voting on establishing the State of Israel. “Just wanted to warn you–something really good’s about to happen!” The other was when they won the Six Day War. “Heads up, guys, you’re about to clobber your enemies!” “Thought I’d let you know.” 🙂

  18. “Now where is the proof of this statement?”

    > This scene is recorded on the walls of caves.

    Nowhere. Your statement is an assertion without proof or even the possibility proof.

    > That’s funny coming from someone who believes the kinds of things you do. For example you believe in angels without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in demons without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in heaven without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in hell without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in God without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in Satan without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in Jesus without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe the Noah’s ark story without proof or even the possibility proof.
    Should I go on?

  19. Should we suppose that Matt 24:6,7 is written so we would not be looking for signs of the end times?

    Yet, I have always heard these verses talked about as if we should be looking for such things as signs of the end times.

  20. Van,

    A few pictures on the walls of caves are not proof of your assertion. There are plenty of historical documents that indicate that Noah and the flood are true. Obviously you are in denial about Jesus since the vast majority of scholars think that He is a historical figure. And you will refuse to take yourself off of the pedestal of divinity that you have erected for yourself until you die…unless you open your heart to truth.

  21. Van,

    So let me get this straight:

    According to Van, science has found cave paintings that spell out implicitly (how a few stick drawings can do this, we are not told) that religion began when a few ancient individuals realized that eclipses happened at certain intervals. These very insightful individuals used this knowledge to wow the commoners and thus became the priests of the new religion and rulers of the culture.

    And according to Van, today’s commoners, most of which do not understand fully how modern individuals called scientists have realized that evolution and a big bang caused everything to exist, should now bow to the said scientists as the enlightened priests of our culture and the new religion called naturalism.

    And Van does not wish any of us to believe plain language (esp. Hebrew and Greek) in much more modern history about real people that existed and that tells us exactly in detail how our religion actually did come about.

    Do Van’s cave paintings (actually the interpretations of them by the modern priests of his religion) really trump plain written accounts? Is conjecture about “prehistoric” art better than detailed explanations from history? Do Van’s priests really know how to interpret the flaking scratchings on cave walls when they cannot read and understand plain script? Can his priests, that know a little more about eclipses and planetary motions than their supposed prehistoric counterparts, really be taken seriously when they think that their minds came from mindless matter? Should those minds be trusted?

    And if they are correct, what does it matter…we are just part of a giant bunch of swirling objects made of much smaller swirling objects that have no goal or purpose. There is no reason to discuss or to think about such things as our origins or religion or even the mindless, goalless universe itself…and such a universe could never produce beings, that have life and minds and goals, to have this discussion.

    “I do not think there is a demonstrative proof (like Euclid) of Christianity, nor of the existence of matter, nor of the good will and honesty of my best and oldest friends. I think all three are (except perhaps the second) far more probable than the alternatives. The case for Christianity in general is well given by Chesterton…As to why God doesn’t make it demonstratively clear; are we sure that He is even interested in the kind of Theism which would be a compelled logical assent to a conclusive argument? Are we interested in it in personal matters? I demand from my friend trust in my good faith which is certain without demonstrative proof. It wouldn’t be confidence at all if he waited for rigorous proof. Hang it all, the very fairy-tales embody the truth. Othello believed in Desdemona’s innocence when it was proved: but that was too late. Lear believed in Cordelia’s love when it was proved: but that was too late. ‘His praise is lost who stays till all commend.’ The magnanimity, the generosity which will trust on a reasonable probability, is required of us. But supposing one believed and was wrong after all? Why, then you would have paid the universe a compliment it doesn’t deserve. Your error would even so be more interesting and important than the reality. And yet how could that be? How could an idiotic universe have produced creatures whose mere dreams are so much stronger, better, subtler than itself?”
    ― C.S. Lewis

  22. I agree with you Lisa completely. Pastor Mark Biltz is my pastor and a very humble gracious person. He has never set any dates at all nor sensationalized his information. I am disappointed that people are taking advantage of this information and over dramatizing it. Pastor Mark is a amazing pastor and I have learned more from his teachings in 4 years than all the years I have been in church. I don’t think we should just throw out this information because so many other people have predicted things and they have not come to pass. The prophets predicted future events that they never saw happen and some still have yet to come to pass. You may want to speak with Pastor Mark and get to know his heart and intentions before just ignoring what he feels God has shown him.

  23. Amen, Jennifer! I have been listening to Mark’s teachings for many years now, and not just on the blood moons. He is a Holy Spirit-gifted teacher and I, too, have learned so much from him. His heart for the Lord and enthusiasm for the Word of God are what gives the blood moon teaching such credibility in my eyes. It seems the enemy is actively trying to cloud this teaching now that these events are about to take place. I believe anyone who wants to truly understand the teaching on the blood moons ought to at least give Pastor Biltz the opportunity to present his take on it. Bless you, sister!

  24. Hagee indeed sensationalized others’ findings to distort their intention, for, he is a pretrib rapture advocate. He has stated over and over again that ‘there is nothing left to happen’ which prevents Jesus’ imminent return. There are many details which happened, with many more to happen in the end sign banner nation of Israel (Is. 11:11-12, Acts 3:21, and 2 Thesl. 2:2 for general rebuttal reference to the pretrib ideation of Hagee). Jon has given most excellent advice here. Jesus stated there will be ‘signs in the heavens’. Let it be so. Disappointing central guest on this matter.

  25. This was a very interesting program. I happen to like Hagee and I’ve listened to his teaching on the Four Blood Moons. I would have liked to have heard a debate WITH John Hagee on this program instead of having two people taking he opposite view. There was no one to present Hagee’s arguments regarding this and information came only from one side.

  26. By the way Reggie Hagee is teaching from what he learned from Mark Biltz. Hagee’s point of view is what you hear from this other side, I have only heard Hagee miss several key points on his DVD. The key source of this is what I believe to be some understanding that Biltz discovered from the Holy spirit of understanding.

  27. I personally think that John Hagee is talking out of the top of his head.. I consider he is teaching a false doctrine.. Maybe he’s looking to be noticed… he sure can play the Sax,. and should stick to what he knows..

  28. Dear Michael.Brown.
    What is your understanding of the Two Witnesses. As this event of the Blood Moons, is related to them, and their appearance on the world scene.

  29. The prophet Joel, in chapter 2, gives two prominent signs to look for that will precede the day of the Lord. The first sign is the outpouring of the Holy Spirit that came on the day of Pentecost at the beginning of the church age, recorded in Acts 2. The last sign He gives is the Solar and Lunar eclipse that will occur just before the great and notable day of the Lord comes. Jesus gives to us the exact same sign in Matthew 24:29ff, when He gives to His disciple’s signs that will precede His coming and the end of the age. Peter mentions this same sign in Acts 2 in his great sermon on the day of Pentecost and tells us that it will happen before the day of the Lord. And Jesus gives this same sign again to John in Revelation 6:13ff as the sign that will precede the opening of the seventh seal of the scroll. The contents of that scroll begin with chapter 8. Chapters 8-19 involve a seven year period during which time the wrath of God will be brought upon the inhabitants of the earth for seven years. Romans 5:9, 1Thessalonians 1:10, and 5:9 tell us that those who believe in Jesus will be delivered from God’s coming wrath. After the lunar and solar eclipse in Revelation 6:13ff, it says in verse 17 that the great day of God’s wrath is come. Whether this tetrad is it or not no one knows for sure. But it is significant that it happens during the appointment days that God gave to Israel, two consecutive years in a row. God has given to us the solar and lunar eclipse as the great sign that will happen just before the day of the Lord; the time of God’s wrath on the earth, and the second coming of Jesus. 1Thessalonians 1:10 specifically links the second coming of Jesus with deliverance from God’s coming wrath. And we know that the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah, great types of what is coming, teach a pre-wrath deliverance of God’s people!
    In Genesis 1, God said that the Sun and Moon and stars were for times and seasons and signs. Brother Ross commented in a video clip discussing Hagee’s book: “I would argue however that there are things that the bible tells us we should look for as signs, not something as common as blood moons.” For Hugh Ross to say, “I don’t think…” when responding to such a significant question is inappropriate given the biblical places this very sign is spoken of. And at the end of the clip when He asks John why the attention on America and not Israel, and says these blood moons are visible here and not there, just because John didn’t have an immediate answer to give to him doesn’t mean there isn’t’ an answer! The signs were given to the Israel of God. And in the Fall of 2015, the lunar eclipse will become visible to the nation of Israel. Over a tetrad, two consecutive years of solar and lunar eclipse’s, all the earth will have had the opportunity to see these two events. And since there have only been 8 tetrad’s in the past 2000 years falling on the appointment days of Passover and Tabernacles, such an event deserves to have attention drawn to it. I’ll close with another comment from Hugh Ross: “I do think there are signs we should look for but I don’t think the blood moons are anywhere the significance level that we should be using as a sign for end times prophecy.” And Yet, God’s Word tells us that the solar and lunar eclipse are just the sign we should be looking for!

  30. It seems to me that God may have another way in store to turn a moon into blood, other than by the blood red moons that have been seen.

  31. Yes, Lunar Eclipses I would not consider a sign. That is a naturally occurring event. The moon turning to blood in the scriptures is a miraculous sign, keep in mind that the Sun will darken as well. No one will be able to say “It’s just an eclipse.” I think it will be something much more than that.

  32. Ge 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

    Seems like the very normal nature of the sun moon and stars are signs. Signs of a new day, a new month, a new year, and when to keep YHWH’s appointed times (seasons).

    Ex. 13:7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
    8 And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.
    9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD’S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
    10 Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.

    Seems like something that comes once every year is still a sign according to YHWH.

    Nu 16:38 The censers of these sinners against their own souls, let them make them broad plates for a covering of the altar: for they offered them before the LORD, therefore they are hallowed: and they shall be a sign unto the children of Israel.

    Seems like something that could be seen every time one comes to the tabernacle is still a sign to YHWH.

    Ex 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

    Seems like something that is done even weekly is still a sign to YHWH.

    De 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
    9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

    Even something that is seen daily can be a sign according to YHWH.

    Why does something have to be “much more than” a red eclipse to be a sign? What do you offer as an alternative to a red eclipse? I have a possible idea, but am looking to those that poo poo a red moon eclipse as not being a sign. And that they happen on YHWH’s appointed times according to His calendar, don’t you not think that it qualifies as something of a sign?

    Jos 4:6 That this may be a sign among you, that when your children ask their fathers in time to come, saying, What mean ye by these stones?

    Stones on a river bank and in the middle can even be a sign.

    Mt 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
    2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
    3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
    4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

    Could it be that we seek for a more sure or bigger sign and will not be given one because we do not accept something simple? Maybe we will look back on the very sign of a 3 blood red eclipses when it is too late. I am not saying that this is the case, but it would behoove those that seek for a “bigger” sign to take it to heart and tell us what bigger sign they are looking for.


  33. Bo, you’re confusing categories. A token or memorial sign of a covenant or something miraculous that the Lord has done is vastly different than signs that the end is near. These tetrads or “blood moons” occur frequently, was each time a sign that the end was near? Did those signs fail since they have been happening for thousands of years? Has the Sun been darkened each time?

    The Scriptures you quoted are mostly memorial signs of something quite super-natural and miraculous that the Lord did for Israel, etc.

    Let’s see if this sounds like a natural event:

    Acts 2:19-20

    19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

    20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

    So while your post had great information. It was unrelated to the topic.

  34. The other signs of the time are also very supernatural, other times that the moon turns red and during the blackouts of the Sun.

    Revelation 6:12

    12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

    Revelation 16:10-11

    10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

    11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

  35. Benjamin,

    The book of Revelation is where I get my idea of what will cause the sun to be darkened and the moon to turn red. And it might not be as miraculous as you suppose. I still want to know if you have an alternative to red eclipses.


  36. When it comes to blood moons, maybe I should be thinking along the lines of how God turned water into wine at a wedding.

  37. When the Lord comes I think I should be expecting him to show up, show off, and get all the glory, if I may borrow a bit from Rod Parsley’s vernacular.

  38. I do have one question on this that I think is a relevant question- What about the moon eclipse/or sun eclipse not being visible in an area like Israel- or that the solar eclipse was only visible in Europe this spring does that have a significance? Since it was not visible in the states are we not given the bad omen? Thoughts?

  39. Yes Bo, God.

    I know that’s a simplistic answer but it is God who will turn the moon to red, not a shadow.

    Joel 2:30-31

    30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

    31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

    Think of the things of wonder that the Lord has wrought in history and for Israel like when he lengthened the day for Joshua and the children of Israel in Joshua 10. I believe it will be along those lines of divine intervention.

  40. Benjamin,

    Yes, a bit simplistic. I was hoping for a little more thought and effort put into the answer.

    Think about how YHWH judged Israel. He usually used other nations. Not much in the way of the miraculous. Think about the OTHER signs of the end times. Wars, rumors of wars, nation rising against nation, earthquakes, people marrying and giving in marriage, false prophets, lawlessness increasing, famines, pestilences, persecution etc. Which of these is miraculous?

    Did the moon not look red during the eclipses? Just because something has happened before does not make it not a sign. Have there not been nations rising against nations, or persecution, or false prophets or lawlessness increasing or famines before?

    Is it possible that the blood and fires and vapors of smoke produce the darkened sun and red moon? Joel seems to list them in just such an order. Do you know nothing of historical reddening of the moon and darkening of the sun during and after forest fires and volcanic eruptions? Are you aware of how smoke and volcanic debris have changed the climate locally and worldwide in the past? Have you heard nothing of “nuclear winter”? Do you know the effects of radiation poisoning?

    Well all that said, I am a bit disappointed that you can poo poo an obvious reddening of the moon and give only an answer that “God” will do it.

    Re 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
    11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

    How much volcanic activity and forest fires coupled with a great war that ends up in nuclear weapons being detonated does it take to produce fire and vapors of smoke enough to darken the sun and make the moon red on a global level? Did you ever have radiation poisoning from the sun and its reflection off the snow from skiing at high altitude on a sunny spring day? It doesn’t take much radiation to cause extreme swelling of the lips and face and 2nd degree burning and miserable itching that is quite painful. What about the skin eruptions that can come afterwards?

    So I do not think that the end is tomorrow or the next day because of a few blood red moons during YHWH’s feast days. But they could very well be signs in the heavens that we are getting close to judgment. I think that the final darkening of the sun and reddening of the moon will be caused by the scorching/burning of forests and cities and nuclear bombs being used at the end. Throw in a couple of Revelation style giant meteor strikes and increased volcanic activity, and how can the sun not be darkened and the moon not turn red. It is just what happens with that much atmospheric pollution.


  41. Thanks for the conversation Bo. I would really like to respond but the flavor of the conversation has become demeaning rather than thought provoking.

    Look into the plagues of Egypt and you will get a taste of what the darkness will be like.

  42. Benjamin,

    Take it the way you want to. We will both find out when it happens, and we may both be wrong.


  43. An end-time “rapture vision” by a Scottish lassie in 1830 has resulted these days in tens of millions of “Left Behind” books (and movies) sold, plus the current “blood moons” craze. Antidotes include “Left Behind or Led Astray?” (You Tube) and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” (Google).

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