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Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: As the old poem said, “Crowned with their fairest hope the Church shall triumph with her Lord and Earth her jubilee shall keep when Israel is restored!”
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Dark clouds full of an abundunce of water. Lightning and the thunder oh heaven shock and awe of the flood of abundance is coming.
This is the prayer for the funding of this ministry and other’s closely related to this mission. Our faith is such that we look knowing that a flood of financial blessing is going to happen. We see it as the storm approach’s it is not a question of if, and know that it is coming right now. Take cover, blessing is being granted, put out the buckets and collect the funding that will pour down from heaven.
May it be so!
What’s happening now is that the Church is being treated by the government in much the same way as the American Indian was.
Some speak of separation of Church and State, as if the Church belongs on some kind of a reservation.
Some want to change the terms, (meanings of words) speaking with a forked tongue, saying they are not going to change things any further, but they do.
Some want to change our way of life, get God out of everything, take away our honoring God, though it is of our heritage, of our native tongue.
I suppose our verses seem to them as if they are some kind of outlawed tomahawk or Bowie knife.
They want to re-educate our young, with gay agenda, evolution and such.
We should see a gathering together of the denomi-Nations.
This was the Wed upload, but it was good to hear this again. Question I have on this for the Thurs show is the future restoration of Israel- does the teaching of Asa possibly a teaching of Israel?
12 And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the Lord, but to the physicians.
Is Israel which was once faithful to God now looking at secular solutions/military/the United States instead of the history of seeking God.
I would like to hear more of the meanings that you studied in healing on this king possibly being a teaching on the future restoration of Israel.
Just wanted to say the mp3 link is wrong, points to the 12th Feb show.
Loving what you do!
I can’t help but think what if…What if Jesus would manifest his presence in the Spirit, among Church leadership in Israel, in such a way, that they would walk in restoration justice and judgment, as delivering judges, as reconciling ministers, by the gospel of Christ?
I would think then, that whoever had matters where there was a need for reconciliation, or restoration, that they would be drawn to such a place.
Big glory! is what’ I’m thinking.
>>What’s happening now is that the Church is being treated by the government in much the same way as the American Indian was.
Really? Christians are being forced off their traditional lands and confined on a reservation? Christian children are being taken from their parents and put in orphaned in an attempt do de-Christian them?
I’m not native American but I grew up among them and I find your analogy offensive.
But, I recognize that it is not you, personally, but a part of a deeply-rooted persecution complex among conservative Christians.
This question may be too esoteric for a chat room but I’ll give it a try:
In retrospect, it is easy to say that the Gentiles accepted Christianity and the Jews rejected it — not that there are over a billion Gentiles Christians and some thousands of Jewish ones.
But why did the early church (including Paul_ assume that the Jews had rejected Christianity?
There was a church in Jerusalem, after all. There are more than a few “Messianic Jews.”
Yes, there was Jewish persecution but there also was Gentile persecution. At the time of even the latest NT book, Christianity wasn’t exactly dominating the Gentile world, as it later would.
Sorry for the bad typing. Let me correct this, at least:
… _now_ that there are over a billion Christian Gentiles. (considerably more, by some counts.)
Thank you so much for the update Billy. We are aware of the mistake and are working to edit the audio link as soon as possible. Thank you again for taking the time to let us know! 🙂
Greg, Jesus said, “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.”
In one day there was added unto the Church about three thousand Jews. (Acts 2:41)
I would have thought there would be more than a few thousand Jewish Christians in the first hundred years or so of the Church.
I just bought a new book titled, “The Lost History of Christianity, the thousand year golden age of the church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia- and how it died.” by Philip Jenkins.
The book is said to “…unveil a vast and forgotten network of the world’s largest and most influential Christian churches that existed to the east of the Roman Empire. These churches and their leaders ruled the Middle East for centuries…”
The book seems to talk about how there was a movement on the heels of Constantine, intent on crushing unorthodox views. In reality, Jenkins says, the largest churches in the world were the “heretics” who lost the orthodoxy battles.
I wonder how much of all that, would be considered “Jewish Christian churches”.
I’ll have to start reading it.
I wonder what happened to the “Jews scattered abroad.” I wonder if their numbers multiplied or what.
It sounds like an interesting book.
I’m always a little skeptical about “secrets revealed!” type books.
But, it’s no a secret that many doctrines which we consider absolutely orthodox were hotly debated in the early church.
Greg — an analogy does not need to be exact to be apt. Ray’s comments were not about acts of the culture, but attitudes in the culture. I got it, Ray, even if Greg wanted to be confrontational and demean the genuine concerns of believers. A shift in attitude towards believers does mirror some of the imperious and belittling views towards other minorities. I write as a brown person! 🙂
But his analogy was so wildly off-base that it diminished the true oppression of native Americans.
His child learning about science in school is not the same him the government physically taking his children away from him in an attempt to end his family’s culture! And that is in recent history. In earlier times, the government simply killed them.
To liken being a Christian in America to being an Indian in America is offensive to me.
Especially when this oppression was justified as “Christianizing” them and done by Christians.
I’ll put this as a second reply, since it is really a second issue.
Just because I don’t confuse pluralism with persecution (as many conservative Christians do), I do not demean their concerns.
While my list of concerns may be different than Ray’s, it bothers me when my country hurts people in way’s that go against my Christian values.
Yes, the government violates my Christian values but I don’t claim to be treated “in much the same way” as the Indians, Jews, blacks or other long-oppressed peoples.
Just curious — what kind of brown person are you?
I’ve got blood like minestrone — lots of ingredients! My parents were from Guyana, and there is Scottish, Spanish, Barbadian (West African) and Indian — and that’s what I know about. So I am the world’s default colour — light brown.
My husband is white British, but of course, the English are a mixed-up race, too. When I was pregnant with our first child, I told him, “Now darling, you do know that this child could come out any colour?” “Yeah, yeah.” “No, I’m serious, this child could be ANY colour skin, any colour hair, any colour eyes.” When I had our second child, I told him, “Now, darling, you do know that this child could be a different colour from the first one?” “Really?” “Yes, really.” 21st Century Britain is a glorious living textbook on genetics!
Have you ever considered getting a genetics test?
You seem like a prime candidate for one.
My aunt had one done and it contradicted a central thesis our family lore!
It confirms my belief that race and, to a lesser degree, ethnicity is more about identity than genetics.
I am a mix of European ancestry, none a majority, but because of where I grew up, I mostly identify with just one of them. If I had grown up somewhere else, I’d probably consider myself something else.
My aunt and uncle had three red-haired children when neither of the parents had red hair.
There is a red-haired great-uncle in the family (ethnically Jewish, I think.) and that’s about it
Genes are fascinating.
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