An Interview with Astronomer Dr. Hugh Ross on Why the Universe Is the Way It Is

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Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: The compassionate wise God has shown His compassion and wisdom in the way He made the entire universe. Think about it.


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Dr. Brown Interviews Young Earth Creation Scholar Dr. Jonathan Sarfati

Dr. Brown Interviews Scientist Hugh Ross (Reasons to Believe); and Biblical Mistranslations and Misunderstandings

Dr. Brown Interviews Dr. Hugh Ross and Dr. Fuz Rana on Hidden Treasures in Job, Why the Universe Is the Way It Is, Creating Life in the Lab, and the Cell’s Design

  1. Bo,
    When I was praying for you I saw Michael Rood.
    Do not trust Michael Rood or any message like his – when he demands all believers obey Torah (Sabbath, Appointed Times, various purification rites, etc.,).

  2. Daniel,

    I have been a dedicated believer in Y’Shua and a student of scripture for 33 years. That is 3 times as long as you…behold, I speak as a man. I am the husband of one wife that is properly under Biblical subjection. I am of good report in the town in which I have lived my whole life. I have raised 5 children to adulthood to love and serve YHWH with their whole hearts. I have 4 more that love Messiah that are not adults yet. YHWH “broke my leg” about 20 years ago…when I was about your age and spoke much as you do…I speak as a man.

    Psalm 119
    67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.
    68 Thou art good, and doest good; teach me thy statutes.
    69 The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.
    70 Their heart is as fat as grease; but I delight in thy law.
    71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.
    72 The law of thy mouth is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver.

    The proud have forged a lie against me…but I continue to keep YHWH’s commandments.

    If I am to be afflicted more by the hand of YHWH, I am sure that it will only cause me to learn more of His statutes and cause me to love His law more. Do you really want this to happen to me, Daniel? Are you prepared to have your leg broken and learn to love His law and keep it?

    I do not listen to Michael Rood.

    On to the topic.

    The scripture says that death entered the world through one man’s sin. It also says that YHWH gave plants as food to man and the animals at the beginning. If plants have spirits and the breath of life. as you believe, and if plants were killed by this eating process, and some undoubtedly were, then death did not enter the world through Adam but was already there when he was created by your veiw. You really do need to read the article about what the Bible says about plants. You have not produced a passage from the Bible that indicates that plants have spirits or the breath of life. There isn’t one. Read the article, Daniel. Here is the link:

    You wrote:
    “I guess the same accusation could be leveled at Jesus right (that He contradicted Himself)?

    Mt 5:22
    “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

    Mt 23:17
    “You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred?”

    Ask God for wisdom before you challenge, because you would have found your answer easily. In fact, I wonder whether you willfully neglected this obvious Truth in order to level that false accusation against me.”

    Messiah did not contradict Himself. Let’s use a better translation:

    Matthew 5
    22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    Matthew 23
    16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
    17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

    Anyone that calls his brother a fool better have good reason for it…because if he doesn’t he puts himself in danger of hell fire. Messiah had good reason for proclaiming the Pharisee to be fools.

    Now you accuse Jonathan of “willfully neglecting” the truth to accuse you. Maybe you should calm down a bit, drink a cup of chamomile tea, and humble yourself and read more carefully what the scripture says and what Jonathan and I have written and even the links that have been posted. Maybe you should accept the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses that your beliefs about plants having spirits are rooted in paganism, animism and Greek pantheism.


  3. Daniel,

    That is the problem. You do not care when someone points out your errors with what is written is scripture. “I have to wonder” is just a way of accusing and trying to have an excuse when you are called on it.


  4. Bo,
    Since we could write a million replies, let’s just stop here.
    I’ve said what I’ve had to say and so have you.

    Hope you submit to the Truth one day.
    That is my hope for you – as if you were me.

  5. Daniel,

    Your argument is self contradictory…here it is.

    You say…a) Plants have the breath of life.

    The Bible says…b) Animals and man were given permission to eat, and thus kill, plants.

    We all know…b) When something is killed it does not have the breath of life any more.

    So you think that YHWH sanctioned and commissioned death before the fall of man, because plants were undoubtedly killed before Adam sinned.

    The problem is that Paul says that death entered the world through sin…Adam’s sin, but you have death coming before sin…unless you think that no plant was killed before Adam sinned. This would entail all animals fasting and being very careful not to trample or root up any plant until after Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It would entail that no sea creature swallowed any, even microscopic, plant life before Adam sinned, for their digestive process would kill the little plants that they ate.

    Simply put you have an conundrum. You have imported a modern definition of life into your reading of the scripture. The only way to fix your problem is to call Paul a liar or to change your view of plants having the breath of life and spirits. You have to choose one or the other…which do you choose? Is Paul wrong…or is your view of plants wrong?


  6. Daniel,

    You wrote:

    “Hope you submit to the Truth one day.”

    So will you submit to the truth that plants do not have spirits and do not have the breath of life? Or will you insist upon your view even though it makes scripture contradict itself?


  7. That should have been:


    Your argument is self contradictory…here it is.

    You say…a) Plants have the breath of life.

    The Bible says…b) Animals and man were given permission to eat, and thus kill, plants.

    We all know…c)(not “b”) When something is killed it does not have the breath of life any more.

    So you think that YHWH sanctioned and commissioned death before the fall of man, because plants were undoubtedly killed before Adam sinned.”


  8. Daniel,

    In post 38 Jonathan Stevenson, responding to you, wrote:
    “If you believe vegetables, yogurt and human sperm can think, feel pain, and have telepathic powers from miles away, there just really is nothing more to be said.”

    I was hoping that you would accept the truth of scripture instead of this being the fitting final analysis of your position. If you cannot answer my post #58, then I guess he was correct.


  9. Bo,
    1. Ro 5:12 says “Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men”

    The “death” was “to all MEN” – this verse, by itself, does not affirm that there was no death in all creation but among men before the fall.
    Thus there is not necessarily (based on Ro 5:12 alone) a discrepancy between his view and mine.

    2. (Bearing in mind that I do not have the 100% answer – this isn’t something I’ve spent time understanding, because I’ve been busy seeking God’s profound wisdom on far more important topics like salvation by grace) I don’t think I’m the only one who has a “problem”. No matter how you choose to define the “life” that the plants had (whether you call it a “spirit” or not), you cannot deny that plants were “alive” and then “died” when they were eaten. How do you give an answer for that? Misread Romans 5:12?

  10. Daniel,

    I never said that plants were not alive by our definition, just that the Bible does not deal with plants in its concept of life/breath of life. The word life in the Bible is more strict than our definition.

    I was not only referring to Romans 5 or misreading it. There is more than one statement in it…each of them being true. Here is my short and sweet answer:

    Romans 5
    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    A) by one man sin entered into the world
    B) death entered by sin
    C) death passed upon all men

    Paul’s argument is since A caused B then C is a direct result. “B” is not saying the same thing as “C”. “B” is a broad truth. “C” is only speaking of one attribute of “B” that follows logically. I am not taking away from the fact that Paul is discussing mankind’s problem.

    Statement “B” is not necessarily only speaking just human death, because of it, death passed upon all men (C). “B” is true in and of itself. Romans 8 and Isaiah 11 help us to understand that all creation has been made subject to vanity and groans for things to be put right again…when the wolf will lie with the lamb.

    Romans 8
    19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
    20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    Isaiah 11
    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den.
    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    And so there is coming a time when the lion will eat straw again instead eating other animals. Creation groans for this to be the case. When this happens, plants will still be being killed…at least the straw comes from somewhere. It appears that whatever type of life plants have, it is not the breath of life or the spirit, for they were given as food from the beginning. Animals were not allowed to eat other animals at the beginning. It is a corruption that came because of sin.

    Plant death did not enter the world because of sin. Animal death did and will be removed in the new heavens and earth…when we (there are stipulations about who)(Rev. 22:14) can eat of the tree of life again. Creation does not groan for plant death to be overturned. It is not the same kind of life. Our modern definitions of life are not to be forced upon the scripture. Please read the article. Ken Ham did not write it. James Stambaugh did.

    An example:

    Revelation 8
    7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
    8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
    9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

    The trees and grass were burnt up, but the creatures that had life, died. This is consistent throughout the Scripture. In our modern view, the grass and trees had life of some sort and died when they were burnt. In the scriptural view plants do not have life/breath of life.

    The confusion is in using our conceptions and reading the scripture with our definitions. Our conceptions are fine for discourse with our fellow man about what we experience, but they can distort the truth of scripture if we do not clarify our thinking and speech when we are discussion Scripture.

    This is even true in specialized fields of study or occupation. Plumbers speak of male and female pipe fittings and mating them, but they do not expect there to be a new litter of baby elbows and tees resulting from such a process. Carpenters mate wood joints and expect no more wood to be created…they know that a tree has to be cut down and milled for that to happen. Words have different meanings in different contexts. The scriptural context of life is not identical to our modern context.

    A person in a cell group can be in a prison cell…all the while being made completely of living cells.


  11. In post # 52 Dan1el says “I guess the same accusation could be leveled at Jesus right (that He contradicted Himself)?
    Mt 5:22
    “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
    Mt 23:17
    “You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred?””

    Did you get this off of some blasphemous atheist site such as this one:

    Among the blasphemy on that page it says: “22) Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 23:17-19 and Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Clearly Jesus should be in danger of hell too?”

    Now Bo already showed where that alleged contradiction is not a contradiction at all in post # 54. But Dan1el, does it bother you that you made the same argument as blasphemous atheists who say that Jesus is a false Messiah?

    Jesus never contradicted Himself as you and the “evil Bible” website both falsely implied. But you did contradict yourself. You challenged Bo not to practice ““Lashon haRa” in post # 44.

    The following website defines “Lashon HaRa” (which I already said was a Jewish tradition and not found in Scripture):

    The gravest of these sins of tale-bearing is lashon ha-ra (literally, “the evil tongue”), which involves discrediting a person or saying negative things about a person, even if those negative things are true. Indeed, true statements are even more damaging than false ones, because you can’t defend yourself by disproving the negative statement if it’s true! Some sources indicate that lashon ha-ra is equal in seriousness to murder, idol worship, and incest/adultery (the only three sins that you may not violate even to save a life). It is forbidden to even imply or suggest negative things about a person.”

    Then in the very next post to where you admonished Bo not to practice “Lashan hara” you did exactly that. Since even implying negative things about a person is forbidden according to “Lahan hara”, you violated it again to even imply what you said about me in post # 52.

    In that same post you said, “Ask God for wisdom before you challenge, because you would have found your answer easily.”

    So if there is an easy answer, I ask you to provide it. Instead of defending yourself by implying that Jesus contradicts Himself too (which is false), please explain how you have not contradicted yourself by telling someone to follow “Lahan hara” and then violated it yourself directly afterward.

  12. Jonathan,

    You do not need to stick up for me. Daniel and I have a history with each other on this site. Sticking to the topic is the best for now, as confronting one another too much is likely to bring the ire of the host.


  13. Jonathan,
    I don’t need an atheistic website; I read the Bible myself. I am not saying Jesus contradicted Himself; I’m saying your accusation against me holds about as much clout as an accusation against Him (on those premises). That being said, I’m not the one trying to be Jewish so the ruling about Lashon haRa has no jurisdiction over me (so, at the end of the day, there really was no contradiction anyways).

    I will post some answers but I don’t really care to continue in this (non-essential) discussion (I’m still learning and becoming established in the Truths of grace).
    1. One could argue that “the world” of Ro 5:12 could easily be “the world” of 1 John 5:19 and 1 John 2:2. Do you think “the world” of either of those refers to all creation? No. So there is a disparity there.
    2. You arbitrarily, I feel, append “groans for deliverance from corruption” to “wolf will lie with lamb”: if you are referring to “the Millennial Kingdom”, He will be raining judgment on certain (disobedient) nations – an account of which it can be certain that animals will die.
    3. Revelation shows the death of living things – whether they be plants or other animals with life.

    From what I’ve heard so far, I think it is not right to try to tinker with the definition of “alive” (as if there is a special definition in the Bible) – plants are alive: there are no two ways about it.

  14. Daniel,

    Read the link I posted!

    If you are so interested in only being established in the truths of grace, do us all a favor and do not post about anything of lesser value. You waste our time and yours. You should not interject into our inessential discussions, since you are so holy.

    And for the record, you falsely accuse me. I am not trying to be Jewish…I am grafted into Israel and there is one law for the stranger and the homeborn. If you want to invent your own version of obedience and grace, that is your prerogative…I accept Paul’s version…which is the same as Moses’s and Messiah’s.

    Lu 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

    As for your ideas about plants having spirits and and the breath of life, you have been fully refuted. You accept pantheism. Read the link. Humble yourself and read the link.


  15. Daniel,

    You wrote:
    “I do not think I am holy or wise – in fact, I know that only God is holy and wise: it is you, an antichrist, who thinks he is holy and wise.”

    Now you think that you are wise enough to judge wile saying you are not wise…Hmmmmmmmm? You accuse me of being unholy/antichrist while you say that you are not holy…Hmmmmmmmm?

    I would suggest:

    1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

    I have tried to:

    2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
    26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    So be it. Do your best to learn the truths of grace. Prepare for a broken leg.


  16. Bo,
    My saying only God is holy…

    John 9
    35Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” 37Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” 38He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. 39Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.” 40Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?” 41Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.

  17. Nicholas Peterson,

    Just a note so that you know where Dan1el is coming from. I am not you run of the mill churchman. I have big issues with standard modern Christianity and Judaism. But I wholeheartedly affirm, believe, and attempt to practice everything Paul wrote…and James and Peter and Matthew and Moses and Jeremiah…etc. That said, I am not a disciple of Paul or Moses but of Y’shua Messiah. I attempt to walk as He walked.

    Dan1el finds fault with my stance that man shall not live by bread alone, but by ever word of YHWH…every word. He thinks that I do not believe that we are saved by grace through faith in Y’shua’s shed blood…even though I have posted that I do many many times on this website. Dan1el thinks that it is his duty and calling to bash me at every turn, so as to protect others from my so called heresy.

    I believe that he has way overstepped the posting rules on this site this time and I have notified the powers that be. They must be busy, because they usually deal with this sort of thing quite promptly.

    Just thought you might like to know.


  18. This is not a game – it is a serious thing to spread a false Gospel and destroy peoples’ faith in so doing (as happened with the Galatians [1:6, 3:1-3, 5:2-11] – the very thing Paul warns the Romans of [Ro 11:17-22]).

  19. Bo,
    That’s like not pulling over a drunk driver just because he hasn’t yet committed vehicular homicide – he is already guilty of an offense worthy of having his license being suspended or revoked permanently.

  20. Dan1el,

    And for that matter what was I doing to harm anyone’s faith by what I was posting on this thread? And why did you feel you needed to attack me so viciously if I was not posting any damnable heresy or harming anyone’s faith? Wasn’t it more because I disagreed with your stance that plants have spirits and are sentient?


  21. Dan1el,

    Most believers would think that your stance on plants to be pagan and pantheistic and my stance to be Biblical. If you would have kept to the subject matter instead of going off on me, you might have been able to see the truth that I was sharing.


  22. Bo,
    I felt you meant more than just to say that I held to a view held by pagans – that you were trying to win an argument by a logical fallacy (ad hominem\poisoning the well) – and was reminded of the reason behind why you must resort to such tactics.

  23. Dan1el,

    I was poisoning no well, I was simply showing by scripture that plants do not have spirits or the breath of life. I posted a link that spoke of where the idea of plants having spirits originated in hopes that you would read it and change your view to a scriptural one. It would seem that you did in fact poison the well by attempting to use character assassination, though.


  24. Dan1el,

    You know that both Jonathan and Nicholas think that you have behaved unlovingly and unmannerly and probably unChristianly in your posts. Does that bother you?


  25. Bo,
    The link is separate from your saying “you hold to pagan/pantheistic views” – in the way that you said it.

    I did not hope to disprove your argument about plants by bringing up your Gospel disparities. I just want people to enter God’s grace and not ever be taken away from it – the same for yourself – and that is separate from the plant argument. I really don’t care about the plants I care about peoples’ souls preserved by grace – and the danger that they may be without that grace because of false propositions such as yours.

  26. Bo,
    No, it does not bother me.
    Following God is not about being “nice”.

    Jesus hurt peoples’ feelings telling Truth.

    Matthew 23:17
    You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred?

    So did Paul.

    Galatians 5
    12I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!

    I am being loving to you and others by directing you to grace.

  27. Dan1el,

    Do you think that you are an apostle or have the right to lambast an elder man, contrary to Paul’s teaching?


  28. Dan1el,

    How many souls have you discipled to love and serve Messiah? What is your fruit? Do you think that my family is good fruit, if the have been raised to love and serve Messiah?


  29. Dan1el,

    How many souls have you discipled to love and serve Messiah? What is your fruit? Do you think that my family is good fruit, if they have been raised to love and serve Messiah?


  30. Only faith in the Word of Grace grants entrance into Grace (and gives us the RIGHT to eat from the tree of life [Rv 22:14], which is fellowship with God [1 Jn 1:1-4] or knowledge of God [Jer 9:24; Jn 17:3]) wherein we “stand” [Ro 5:2] (revealing GOD’S righteousness [Jer 23:6] apart from the Law [Ro 3:21] – not OUR OWN by the Law [Pp 3:9]) – therefore, we must be very careful not to leave that Word of Grace (to any other message which is not from Him Who calls [Gal 5:8]) or else we leave the God Who calls us by Grace in Christ [Gal 1:6] and “fall” [Gal 5:4; Rv 2:5] and get shut out of God’s presence.

    The foundation stone of our lives/eternal lives (fellowship with God) is His mercy (the Cross) [Jer 31:34] – no other foundation may be laid [1 Cor 3:11] – and by that alone we enter to His Presence/knowledge of Him AS A GIFT; then He reveals HIS OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS through us! This should go without saying: God doesn’t need to read the Law to figure out what is “right” to do. When He reveals His righteousness through us, it isn’t because we read the Law (not that we ought not read it – it is edifying since we can derive spiritual understandings from it about the Word of Grace and be edified/wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus) and worked thereby – again, God works HIS OWN RIGHTEOUS LIFE through us and (this goes without saying) HE doesn’t need instructions to learn how to be righteous.

    OK I don’t want to draw this out any longer. Thanks! LOVE YOU (ALL)! I’m no good at all but I know the One Who is good! 🙂

  31. Nicholas,

    I wanted to give Dan1el a chance to repent and let him explain why he did what he did. We didn’t exactly get to the bottom of it, but he obviously felt attacked by me saying that his view of plants having spirits and being sentient, etc. So it was in response to feeling attacked that he “heard from god” about me.

    And for the record I have not left the gospel of Y’shua Messiah and am not trying to be a Jew. I fully believe that it is only by YHWH’s grace that we are justified. And once that is the case with us, we are called to learn YHWH’s word and be obedient children instead remaining in ignorance of His word and continuing to be children of disobedience. And Revelation 22:14 really does not say what Daniel says it says. Check it out for yourself in a Bible that uses the Textus Receptus for its Greek text. KJV is good.

    Let’s hope I can hear your word for the wise 🙂


  32. That should have been:

    …by me saying that his view of plants having spirits and being sentient [sounded like paganism and animism], etc.

  33. Just following up.

    Will there be a reprimand going out to Dan1el as is usually done when posts are abusive and blatantly off topic?

    Will he be moderated from now on or for a period of time?

    Will he be allowed to post his diatribe of warnings and character assassination against Bo in the future?

    So far, by only removing his posts, he has actually been made to look better. Is this what you want?

    There are other posts of his that are abusive besides the three that were deleted.

    This situation seems to be taking a long time to resolve.

    I would appreciate an email in regards to this situation.

  34. Greetings!

    Thank you for bringing to our attention the inappropriate comments made by Dan1el. His comments have been removed as requested and rightfully so. Dr. Brown has made it clear to all that when placing comments all comments that are attacking, threatening, perverse, or vulgar will be pulled from the thread. And if a particular individual is continuously posting these kinds of posts then that person will be blocked from commenting further on future posts. Again, thank you for bringing this to our attention. With the amount of communications that we deal with daily it is unfortunate that these inappropriate comments slipped through the filtering system. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

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  35. lofradio,

    I actually requested that you not remove his comments, but that you do something in regards to him continuing his attacks. If you are going to remove all attacking posts, I think you missed these posts:


    Also you seem to have deleted two that were simply bringing the situation to your attention…those being:

    Nicholas Peterson
    Please see posts #45, #71 (among others no doubt).
    This “Dan1el” is saying things like:

    “You are an elder in demon-worship.”


    “This is what God told me: you are a wannabe theologian.
    You teach people to rebel against God – you are false prophet leading the sheep astray and God will break your leg. … you hypocritical lawless lawbreaker. You are not holy.”

    Please do something about this outrage.

    Nicholas Peterson
    Hey Bo,
    I really cannot understand why you continue to waste your time with someone who is just being abusive (on many counts). Your continuing the conversation also gives this individual an opportunity to continue to spout off his hatred. The words he is speaking are borderline murderous. I just sent a note to the moderator, but till they hear of this and take the needed action, why don’t you leave off any discussion with this person? It gives him a further platform to keep it up.


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