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We messianic jews believes that any one to be saved jew norjews has to aaccept Yeshua as the son of G-d our messiah.
At once Pastor Hagee said jews is already saved by the promise of G-d to Abraham and this is danger cause if so the messianic jews would have no need of our existence.
Ailton ; do check out this book (Hagee is mentioned in the book) :
Also,do watch this (click ‘WATCH VIDEO’) :
Just saw the 10 minute India video. How smart to see young believers being taught to operate a printing press ; what a primary skill for spreading Kingdom teaching ; supremely Holy Scripture.
I believe the Jews have been God’s chosen people.
I hope they still are. I trust he will save as many as will be saved by him who plays no favorites but judges justly towards all people.
I trust that Jesus who taught men to not love friends or family more than him, will not love anyone more than God.
Hope your India trip is going well. I don’t know if you have time to answer this on the road or not, but the question definitely is in keeping with your degree. I was reading a book by a rather liberal author from Harvard Devinity school in which he is making the case that the OT is based on Canaanite parallels. Most of what he has to say takes…well to put it kindly a great deal of imagination to believe.
One point he makes is that the Hebrew word for EL is borrowed from the proper name of a Canaanite God; that the God of Israel was first introduced to Abraham as the pagan god El. Later on, (just as El was replaced by Baal) El in Israel was replaced by Yahweh. His support for this is the claim that El Shadday has been “mistranslated as God almighty” and should properly be translated as “El of the mountain”. And since the El of the canaanites lived on the “cosmic mountain” then the EL of the Hebrews is the same as the El of the Canaanites. That is, he is making the case that El is not generic for God, but was used as a proper name for God shared by both peoples.
Do you buy any of this?
Who is the author of the book?
As for buying into this, I certainly don’t, and the more you put the OT against its ANE background, the more it stands out. See, e.g., http://www.amazon.com/The-Bible-among-Myths-Revelation/dp/0310285097/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355273740&sr=8-1&keywords=john+oswalt
We do know that the name El was used to describe the head of the Canaanite pantheon, but it also simply means god/God, so that it was only natural for the Israelites to use the same word when speaking about the one true God. This link will give you a balanced perspective:
I know you are busy and appreciate your input.
The author is Michael Coogan, Lecturer on Old Testament/Hebrew Bible at Harvard Divinty School and director of publications of the Harvard Semetic museum.
Co-Author Mark S. Smith Skirball professor of Bible and near Eastern studies at New York University.
I found their whole case of dependence of the OT on Canaanite parallels somewhere between amusing and bizarre. It seems dismaying that Harvard which was started to further Biblical principles can have teachers of Scripture couch it in such terms.
I once heard Norman Geisler say the more orthodoxy you are willing to surrender, the more “scholarship” the world will give you in return. Guess He is right.
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