Hank Hanegraaff is a colleague and a friend for whom I have the utmost appreciation and respect, but I believe he is wrong concerning God’s promises to Israel and concerning Israel and the Palestinians today. I’ll explain why on today’s broadcast. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments!
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: I have utmost respect for Hank Hanegraaff and deep appreciation for the fine work he does but when I believe there’s error concerning Israel it must be addressed and it must be exposed. Let us come together and reason and hear God’s word, God’s wisdom as one body and one family.
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: I rest in the great confidence that the God who scattered Israel is the God who has re-gathered Israel and is re-gathering Israel and is bringing Jewish people back to Him, back to Jesus the Messiah on a daily basis.
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I believe Hank’s heart is in the right place but I believe this is one of a number of different things that Hank is wrong about. Of course it would seem the feeling to be mutual. I believe Hank thinks I am a heretic because I am oneness and speak in tongues.
Mr. Hanegraaf is walking in the footsteps of the previous Bible answer man, Walter Martin. One can only go so far in one’s understanding and exegesis of the Scriptures with one’s intellect, absent the presence of the fullness of the Holy Spirit. In these last days, the Jews ownership of Jerusalem and the Promised Land of Israel will be the ‘rock’ the Gentile nations and the apostate church shatters themselves upon. “Having a form of godliness but denying its true power- from such TURN AWAY” (2nd Tim. 3:5)
Here’s a relevant link critiquing the With God on Our Side DVD: http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/98503/sec_id/98503
For those Christian dispensationalists who believe that God’s promises to the Jews have been ‘co-opted’ by the Church of Jesus Christ, I suggest you read, CLOSELY, the prophecy of Zechariah, Chapters 12 thru 14, which describes God’s support of Israel against the Gentile nations in the Last days, and Israel’s reconciliation with her redeemer, Jesus Christ. Any HONEST reading of Zechariah compels one to believe that National Israel, in possession of its own land, will be reconciled to God in the Day of the Lord.
I might get around to listening to this podcast (I first heard you on Dr. White’s Dividing Line program). It’s great that you are addressing these issues in a respectful way. I accept postmillennial covenant theology and believe that ethnic Israel will possess the land and be joined with the Church in a mass conversion. This is following Jonathan Edwards, who also said stuff that sounds sort of charismatic. 🙂
In response to Andy–I would be very suprised if Mr. Martin suscribed to replacement theology since he is oft cited on Jan Markel’s radio show and his daughter is a re-occuring guest on that show.
I hope I wasn’t to ham fisted with my point(s) of view above—I just get angry when people speak badly of Jewish people, whether they be Messianic, Conservative, or Orthodox.
@Dr. Brown, I really appreciated this show.
There’s two things that I would have said to the callers. The one who said America supports Israel. I would have said that it was because of the Persian king that Israel got to build the second temple, but the Bible says that it wasn’t the king acting on his own, but rather God working through him. I say the same thing is true today. That God IS sovereign and used various means to bring some of His people back.
And the lady who essential said Christian Zionism is offensive and costs us converts. I’d say that that is true of speaking the truth about homosexuality, about abortion, about fornication, etc. Many issues will cause us to lost prospective converts, so does that mean we stop preaching the truth, because the truth is offensive to so many people?
But I was surprised to see you use the hermeneutic regarding heaven and earth and what that means regarding the Jewish people, since you use a completely different hermeneutic in Matthew 5:18 that uses the exact same phrase heaven and earth.
Thanks for the comments, and yes, I could have mentioned some of the points you make here.
Re: Matt 5:18, I don’t use a different hermeneutic. I just see two “untils” in the verse, and much of the Torah and Prophets has already been fulfilled, while the rest will be — and none of it will be abolished but rather fulfilled. Quite a few exegetes read the text as I do — but that’s another debate, and not for here.
Thanks for the comments!
@Dr. Brown, thanks for the reply.
Without me differing with you here, could you elaborate on how that works with the two untils?
1) What will not pass away until heaven and earth pass away?
2) And what will pass away when it is fulfilled?
And how does the “Whosoever therefore” of the next verse tie into that?
I won’t argue back here, as you requested, but I’d like to understand your reasoning process. Honestly, I’d never thought of the two untils has referring to different times in the context, so I’m interested in how you seeing that playing out.
Do you have vol. 4 of my Jewish Objections series? I get into this in great detail there?
If not, I’ll try to post a concise answer ASAP.
The interpersonal aspect of Dr. Brown’s relationship with Hank Hanegraff is of great interest to me. The plain fact is that Dr. Brown is accusing Hank of producing an anti-Semitic DVD. I applaud Dr. Brown for his sensitivity in recognizing areas of agreement in the faith with Hank. There is something of Galatians 6:1 here which states, “Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.” At the same time, it would be a mistake to think that the area of disagreement does not result in real world consequences.
Dr Brown, why don’t you have Hank on your radio show or debate him in person regarding this topic? He even blasts some revivalists as non-God movements. Although I appreciate some of his apologetic work, he is a divider more than a unifier of believers.
If Hank felt it would be constructive, I would be delighted to have him on with me.
@Dr. Brown, what do you think about Yeshua being angry about them diving up his land? And how it’s most likely the AntiChrist who will make the two state solution a reality. That would make AntiZionists/Pro-Palestinian state people fighting for the same goal as the AntiChrist and one state Zionists fighting for the same goal as Yeshua, one land, undivided. But then there is this verse…
Sorry MB but I have to chime in here a bit harshly. I listened to Hank off and on for a couple of decades and then he started his “preterist” rants. Unfortunately he like many other Christian radio & TV personalities think they know it all in spite of the plain truth that a child could understand staring them right in the face.
And I think its more than fair to filet Hank a bit considering thats almost all he did to others on his radio program for decades. The word of God is to be rightly divided. Hank rightfully went after JWs, Mormons and the prosperity & charasmatic crowd but he constantly went after almost all prophecy teachers as book writing “newspaper headline chasing” gainsayers to use his words. When every 5 minutes on his show he was asking for money. Not to mention the unseemly way he usurped Walter Martins program and his diluted, twisted on the fence views about Calvinism.
So as Paul says anyone preaching another Jesus let him be ……….”
Preterists are completely off their rockers. Do they suppose Jesus will just float down to the white house lawn some day and tell whos ever president @ that time to “step aside Im taking over now its time for the millenium “.
I dont care how “Christian” someone says they are they are leading people down a path of destruction to tell people there is no such thing as Gods coming wrath and that Israel has no future.
That my friend is HERSY.
The OT & NT are just full of scriptures that tell us about Christs return and its all about Israel and its not pretty.
To me this all goes back to your show on “fearing the lord”. The truth is certian peoples intellects are so big they cant see the truth.
I take it that with the commander of the army of the Lord, there was not one particular group on earth he sided with but instead he is about righteousness, justice, truth, goodness, etc.
@Dr. Brown, for some reason I never saw your reply here. I don’t know how I missed it! I’m sorry. Yes, I do have all five volumes of your series, but I’ve been very busy with work lately. I’ll definitely be reading it this Sabbath to see if I can find your answer!
Minor interactions over the years with Hank H.’s staff have revealed a prejudice against the supernatural aspects of scripture coming into the present, and the immediate future. The fact that when the supernatural aspects and promises of God in Christ become literal fulfillments a merely intellectual or past history approach to exegeses cannot occur and we are not in charge of the outcome seems to rattle Mt. Hanegraaff. He has established little comprehension of how the enemy works, and the challenges of spiritual warfare, which make his group vulnerable to how the Satan works to divide and scatter God’s people coming into its own administrations of supposed truth.
In a telephone conversation years ago with one of his staff he wanted me to go on air for the sake of engaging the classic view from Moody B.I. scholars on the matter of spiritual warfare. I could hear the cynicism in the voice of the staff member as he was literally rebuking the prayer warfare approach to the challenges of specific situations and conditions of related human need.
We can pray for a purifying of the heart of the ministry, for it is working against not only a literal future millennium, but in interpreting events as historically past or primarily symbolic in the Revelation, the imagination of one man is being exalted above scripture’s connection with God being God, giving warning to His Church.
God took the initiative to covenant with us, and placed promises in the mix so that in each life of connection faith could be accessed for the journey. God sent us Jesus, whom the heavens retain until that time where restoration is in the mix of present promise (see Acts 3:21 on the living word to Israel coming into our present day and bright future).
I lost respect for Hank H. once I noticed he would have the likes of Hugh Ross on his show with his twisted contortions to make Genesis 1 to 11 fit the current secular paradigm but wouldn’t give Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis the time of day.
Jonathan, If you are oneness, you are a heritic. Not because I said so, but because the Word does, Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well. (1 John 2:22, 23 HCSB)
You might argue that you do not deny that Jesus is the Messiah, but the problem is that you say that the Father is the Messiah. You make no difference, no distinction between the Father and the Son, when this passage clearly does make a distinction. John would not agree with you at all, so repent because you do not have the Father if you denie the Son, and if you deny Him, then there is no hope of salvation for you.
Thank God for someone with the courage and grace to deal with this error of Hank Hanegraf.
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