Dr. Brown Interviews Messianic Jewish Leader Asher Intrater on “seeing God” in the Bible, and then answers the question, “Did Jesus curse Israel?”
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: God does not want to be a distant God to you, keep you at arm’s length, or be just the Creator to you. He wants to be your Father. He came into this world, through His son, to make Himself known to you.
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: God is utterly, absolutely, totally faithful. When He makes a promise, He will keep His promise. He is good to His word, infallibly so. He has promised the ultimate salvation of Israel, and so Israel shall be saved! There will be a national turning of the Jewish people to Yeshua.
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God’s promise to His chosen one David was brought back into remembrance in Psalm 89:3-4 “I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.” After this important reminder, the psalmist cries out in Psalm 89:44 “Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground.” This world goes through so much chaos, but thank God that He remains true and faithful. Yeshua, being the Son of David, was raised from the dead and is seated on the throne forever. Psalm 89:1-2 “I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations. For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens.”
Do you believe present-day, unconverted nation of Israel are the people of God?
First, please do understand that I’m simply unable to post here much in the coming weeks, so my answers will be short if I happen to catch posts at all. Nothing personal!
Second, yes, they are the people of God in terms of those to whom God made promises and those who are still loved because of the patriarchs (Rom 11:28-29), but not in terms of those in right relationship with Him and therefore part of His family. So, the people of God but, for the most part, in rebellion and unbelief, just like OT Israel for the most part.
Third, with the repeated caveat that you should not expect responses from me here (and therefore need not address me in comments), today’s show plays right into your areas of doctrinal difference re: the pre-existence of the Son, so this is a perfect thread for you to jump in (although I say that with some trepidation). 🙂
We are given the truth with grace here of the unusual event on North American radio of one New Covenant Prophet talking with another New Covenant Prophet for the whole people of God to hear. Listen carefully, listen to the hearts, listen to what God is doing and establishing. Both have made the Gandhi like commitment of creating and bonding with faith community establishments as are the associations with their own communities formed of Ecclesia, with the Messianic clarity of the impartiality of God. One will find truth and grace as the preoccupation of these ambassadors of Jesus the Messiah.
FYI, in his time, M. L. King cited the Sermon on the Mount, a famous Russian author now thought of as a classic examiner of his own civilization as was unveiled in turmoil when faced with Christian truth, and M. Gandhi as the sources for his philosophy of nonviolent noncooperation. Such outlooks composed his focused motivation for bearing truth in love as a ‘force’ for establishing God’s justice and mercy for an identified as oppressed people group in these United States.
In mentioning M. Gandhi above, he is not so mentioned as a Christian, for he was not. He is mentioned as important in history as a leader enmeshing reason for change within an enabling support achieved of a local responsive community overcoming a blanket of injustice to effect socio-political change. The reformers of the Church, the Message and Messenger founding our faith–together–worked from a tightly formed supporting community in addition to advancing overcoming outlooks on controlling circumstances.
Community is the stuff of Mt. 18’s reconciliation processes, as advanced after the Cross of Christ, and of those who wash their garmets in the blood of the Lamb. It becomes in realization a reality of not simply standing as individuals, but as One. If Gandhi had conducted his marches and immovable human walls of resistance becoming barriers to business as usual alone, he would not have succeeded in changing what he did for brief but focused action years of resulting consequence. I confess that I began to understand Jesus in his own responses to scribes and pharisees when reading Gandhi. This was a side of Jesus the Man I could not comprehend in knowing Jesus as God. Both charcters of the incarnation became One in action and consequence, confrontation, and truth in love bearing a force of change, by both offering a solid character foundation and formation. It is written that Jesus learned obedience by the things he suffered. This phrase was a perplexity to me as merely based on the gospel accounts, until I read of Gandhi’s work and strategy in India, being Gandhi the Man, not as being divine but, perhaps, the most outstanding figure of seeking to place common sense truth as a force of change into a self blinded arena of socio-political challenge.
I am not preaching Gandhi, but know what can be learned from him regarding understanding one side of Jesus Christ (Gandhi also noting his movtivation from the Sermon on the Mount as well, where and when so).
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