Join Dr. Brown as he debates Dr. Nathaniel Frank, author of Unfriendly Fire, on homosexuals serving openly in the military, and also hear from military Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt on this subject. Today the phones are also open for your questions on related and unrelated subjects! Don’t miss today’s exciting show!
Hour 1:
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: I deeply appreciate every man and woman who desire to serve in our military, including those who identify as homosexual; but this is not a time for social experiments or arguments about equality. This is about what’s best for our military, and I’m sad to say, I believe we’ll see that the repeal of don’t ask, don’t tell, is anything but best.
Hour 2:
Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: We can debate the role of Christianity in society, or whether or not the President of America should be a committed Christian. What is not debatable is the role that Jesus must have in our lives. He must be the absolute Lord, and we can only be world-changers if we have been changed by Him.
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The Preposterous Premise for Gay Marriage
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I’m inclined to ask the question would we advocate the removal of military men and women from the service who participate, openly, in fornication? In the end, the military is a job and is voluntary. People who fornicate are allowed to work in the miltary, yet there is no movement from us of faith to have those service members removed from the service. I don’t have the answer, I’m interested in how we reconcile advocating against one sin and not another.
The most obvious thing about the apologists for the Sodomite “community” is their incessant lying. “Dr.” Nathaniel told one lie after another, and engaged in one fallacy after another.
To compare basic human rights and equality based on race or sex with sexual behavior is OUTRAGEOUS and they usually get away with this absurd comparison. The CHOICE is a sexual one, and it is a PERVERTED one. To PRETEND in any way that this is the same as giving the same treatment to blacks or women is an example of the depravity of the human heart to engage in deceit to promote perversion.
Nathaniel said most “young” people he spoke with don’t care. Even if that is true, it is ONLY true because the Public school system has CORRUPTED and BRAINWASHED our youth to think such unnatural and immoral thoughts. Therefore this is no evidence at all–it is an indictment and sorry commentary on the wicked state of our nation, and the fact that evil people control the Public School system, which is now the Marxist Sodom and Gomorrah training institute.
Nathaniel brought up women in the Military. MISTAKE! Therefore two wrongs don’t make a right. Putting woman in any kind of combat situation is evidence not only of stupidity, but of the rejection of the Biblical view of the sexes and their proper roles we used to honor in this nation. The military should not be co-ed for a dozen powertful reasons that anyone with a brain and an ounce of morality can cite. Women in the military has created all kinds of problems, all of which were PREDICTED and have sadly come to pass.
Then we are told there already are gays already serving in the Military. So what? There are druggies, drunks and perverts as well. But they don’t flaunt it, they hide it–rightly so, and we don’t call it GOOD! We don’t sanction it.
George Washington drummed a homosexual out of the military before an entire regimen. He was a disgrace and they publically dealt with the abomination that is Homosexuality in no uncertain terms. The men who gave us the Constitution and the freedoms we enjoy would NEVER tolerate this. Our prisons would be full with all the deviants and traitors that occupy every level of government and society.
David,
I am inclined to ask the question are all sins the same? Sexual perversion seems to be pretty much in same line with fornication for you.
Well, two men having perverted sex is perhaps (by definition) out of marriage and thus sort of like fornication. Perversion is far more repulsive than fornication, which in turn more repulsive than say… gossip.
I don’t know about you, but I have some sort of threshold when a behavior in question is going over the top. Sexual perversions are basically included there.
Again, I cannot talk for you and urge you to explain your views yourself.
Regarding American military, I care as much about it as about McDoanlds workers, or some sort of union of welders. To me, being a soldier is a job where people get money about the same as those who flip hamburgers or cut wood, or assemble parts, with minor distinction that former end human life and do so in oath (Matthew 5:34) binding submission to political means and goals.
In the Christian tradition which I were brought in, military service would be a taboo. So, I don’t know what should military do with its perverts. Honestly I don’t care about it that much.
I think, and it is pretty obvious, that this queering of military is simply one of many symptoms of decaying culture and sanity. You know, when a person has serious illness, symptoms are often built up, getting manifested in various ways incrementally. Queering of America (and the world) sprouting on so many levels… that even reading your assertions as if homosexuality is identical to fornication is indicative of its influence. In my opinion, making and analogy between homosexuality and fornication is quite a stretch. But most Americans and westerners are already trained to blur the distinction… so that is not surprising.
NOTE: I am speaking for myself. Not for Dr. Brown, or anyone else.
As a afterthought, I am aware of what 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 say:
I do see that fornication, homosexuality, covetousness, and drunkenness are listed.
How are those exactly viewed by God I do not know.
I can give this much: sins listed are equal as far as concerning inheritance of Kingdom of God, but they are not identical.
I just wanted to clarify, assertion that fornication and homosexuality are the same is a variation of the argument that homosexuality and gluttony are the same, and why Christians don’t oppose gluttony to the same extent as they oppose homosexuality.
I can say confidently that this equation between the two is wrong on many levels.
A person being drunkard or glutton is primarily destroys own life, and that’s the end of it…
It is very sad, but it is really does not concern anybody a lot (perhaps close relatives).
A clever pro-homosexuality activist affects a lot of things!! From TV, media, journalism, school curriculum, to the laws, and the very conceptions and definitions of what is known as “family” and “marriage” in a given culture/society.
This IS very dangerous and affect most people if not all.
A lot more could be said.
P.S. I am happy that some societies still have guts and power to resist ever increasing homosexual activism and influence.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iN30TwwunCPBtqr3Pnt0fxHgrRaQ?docId=CNG.4a103f4c12c31f010418ccb1595560e0.371
Note of course, cleverly added last sentence. Makes me wonder why didn’t author mention pedophiliaphobia or something like that.
I only hope this resistance will last, even thought Globe becomes smaller and smaller (meaning internet brings things everywhere fast. ..By the way, I already read in Russian a boloney translation somewhere.. often cut and pasted on the internet, which Dr. Brown addressed on first DVD of “Homosexuality Church and Society”, having to do with stoning neighbor, abomination of eating shellfish as compared to abomination of homosexuality, etc etc. You see, queer activists spread their influence beyond American border quickly)
I like the penalty for pedophilia in (some parts of) Russia: your choice of chemical castration, or life in prison — which one do you want?
3% repeat offenders.