Dr. Brown Answers the Rabbis (Part 4)

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Dr. Brown tackles some of the objections of Rabbi Tovia Singer, a leading counter-missionary, today on the Line of Fire! He’ll also share a wonderful testimony from Israel and give perspective on the push for a Palestinian state.

Hour 1:

Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: The Spirit of the Lord indeed was on Jesus the Messiah–who, in accordance with the scriptures, set the captives free, raised the dead, healed the blind, the sick, and the lame, and demonstrated that He had been sent by God to change the world!

Hour 2:

Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: Jesus the Messiah came into the world, and by coming into the world, opened the door of salvation not only to the Jewish world, but also to the Gentile world! We ought to thank God that He has not forgotten about 7 billion people, and sent His Son in love for them as well!

Featured Resource:

Son of Sam, Son of Hope [DVD]

Other Resources:

Dr Brown Debates Rabbi Tovia Singer on Sid Roth’s Radio show “Time is running short”.

Dr Brown and Rabbi Tovia Singer debate on a variety of topics, from the Messianic fulfillments of Yeshua to the core foundations of Christianity and Judaism.

This fascinating debate has a surprise ending!

Dr. Brown Answers the Rabbis (Part 1)

Dr. Brown Answers the Rabbis (Part 2)

Dr. Brown Answers the Rabbis (Part 3) (and an interview with David Brickner of Jews for Jesus)

Stand With Israel [mp3 Series]

INCLUDES: 1.) Israel Shall Be Saved 2.) Intercession, Israel, & Miracles 3.) A Baptism of Tears for Israel 4.) Israel and the Last Days 5.) The Rising Tide of Anti-Semitism 6.) Are the Rabbis Right? (Brown vs. Singer Debate) 7.) Who is Jesus? Part 1 8.) Who is Jesus? Part 2

Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus Volume 3: This third installment of Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus looks specifically at questions raised about messianic prophecies in Isaiah, Daniel, Psalms, Haggai, and Zechariah.

and Volume 4: In this volume of the Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus series, Dr. Brown counters the arguments that the New Testament mistranslates, misuses, and misunderstands the Hebrew Scriptures, also addressing the objections that Jesus or Paul abolished the Law.

Jesus: Messiah or Not [DVD Debate]: A question asked and debated for centuries. Can we know for sure? Featuring Dr. Michael L. Brown and Rabbi Michael Gold.

Countering the Counter-Missionaries [22 mp3 set] : An important resource will be a great faith builder for those who are struggling, a great outreach tool for those who are seeking, and a great source of edification and enrichment for those who are involved in Jewish evangelism.

  1. Dr. Brown:

    You said something about the “Son of Sam” serial killer that bothered me greatly. In his quote, he said that he did not expect society to forgive him, but that G-d had forgiven him.

    In the Jewish religion, an individual who sins against man must make restitution to those that he sinned against and beg their forgiveness. This forgiveness must be obtained before full atonement is fulfilled. It is simply not appropriate to state that “you may not have forgiven me but G-d certainly has.”

  2. Matt, first, I’m glad that you listened to the show, and thanks for your comments here.

    To respond, David cannot bring back to life those he killed. He has agonized over their losses, asked the families involved for forgiveness, and will spend the rest of his behind bars. He also helps those in need within prison every day of his life and seeks to minister to others through an online blog. What else would you like him to do? And are you saying that God cannot and will not forgive him unless he can bring back to life those whose lives he destroyed? And what does the Talmud and Jewish tradition teach about the power of repentance?

    Of course, that is also the extraordinary power of Yeshua’s death on our behalf. When we turn to God in repentance and faith, we receive complete forgiveness, since the Messiah took our place and paid for our sins (Isa 53:6). If there is a debt we owe to society or there is restitution we need to make, we must do so, but we can enjoy perfect peace before God, who forgives and casts our sins into the depths of the sea.

    Who is a God like you, pardoning the sin and overlooking the crimes of the remnant of his heritage? He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in grace. He will again have compassion on us, he will subdue our iniquities. You will throw all their sins into the depths of the sea. (Mic 7:18-19 CJB)

    ADONAI is merciful and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in grace. He will not always accuse, he will not keep his anger forever. He has not treated us as our sins deserve or paid us back for our offenses, because his mercy toward those who fear him is as far above earth as heaven. He has removed our sins from us as far as the east is from the west. Just as a father has compassion on his children, ADONAI has compassion on those who fear him. For he understands how we are made, he remembers that we are dust. (Psa 103:8-14 CJB)

  3. My only problem is the insensitivity of the statement, “you may not have forgiven me, but G-d already has.”

    Even if it were true, there is an implication in this statement that the pain and suffering, and hence the forgiveness, of the affected party is inconsequential with respect to the One who “really matter” (because He is the only one who has the power to punish).

    It smacks of a certain insensitivity I have noticed in born-again Christians.

  4. Matt, thanks for your response. Perhaps you heard David’s words through the grid of your own view of born-again Christians? In fact, David always regrets the terrible damage he did, as I mentioned, but he was saying the opposite of what you heard. In other words, he was saying, I know that people will never forgive me for what I have done, regardless of how contrite I am and how many years I spend behind bars, but God has forgiven me. Also, the born-again Christians I know who are serious about pleasing God are very big on repentance towards those they have sinned against, making restitution when possible, and seeking reconciliation. That being said, there is something extraordinary when you receive a new life from God and the burden of your sins is cast away, and perhaps the exuberance you have heard in some born-again testimonies — I’m forgiven! I’m free! — has struck you as being insensitive. Could that be?

  5. Dr. Brown,

    I very much enjoy your broadcasts. On Sept 1st, you opened with an inspiring story out of Israel concerning the youth organization “eh-lav”. Can you please point me to the news service reporting this or the organization website where I can learn more about this?

    Thank you,

    Salem, AL

  6. I don’t know. Maybe you are being to charitable. (Maybe I a not charitable enough.) I don’t see how you could possibly interpret a statement like that.

    One could be contrite and beg individuals for forgiveness, but one “Maybe you have not forgiven, me but G-d has forgiven me,” and that seems to wipe away all the contriteness.

  7. A caller asked why Jews do not believe Jesus to be their promised Messiah. One of the biggest is the Trinity. Founded on the fallacy and disregard of Ps. 110:1 as the key to the lord Messiah status of Jesus. And Adoni (the second lord NOT Lord/LORD/YHWH) is the non-Deity term, all 195 times!

    Bowman in his pro-Trin book spent a whole chapter on Jesus as Lord and managed to avoid all ref. to Ps. 110:1!

    Cremer the Greek lexicon writer [cited below] was far in advance in 1878. I think this info is useful. I had written a few days ago:

    Bowman (Putting Jesus in his place):

    Jesus affirmed the Shema as the first and greatest commandment and in that regard his view was in the mainstream of Judaism…. Paul and other NT writers echo the Shema.

    He admits that Jesus was a Jewish unitarian, by implication. If Jesus’ view was in the mainstream of Judaism this would be absolutely untrue if Jesus was a Trinitarian.

    Here is where we can attack. He has 13 pages on HE IS LORD pp. 157-170, and he constantly tells us of YHVH texts applied to Jesus in the New. BUT when he gets to Peter in Acts 2:34-36 he makes no ref to Ps. 110:1. He is talking about Jesus being made lord.

    This is amazing because he (Bowman) quotes Joel 2:32 (YHVH text) cited by Acts 2:21. But when he gets to Acts 2:34-36 where Peter says that God has made Jesus Lord and Christ according to Ps. 110:1 which is then cited in proof by Peter, Bowman has left the citation of Ps.110:1 out! This is obviously bad. He just turns a blind eye to the very text from Ps. 110:1 which Peter uses as prooftext for Jesus being Lord, and Bowman does not let us see.

    He makes no comment on the use of Ps 110:1 in Acts 2:34-36. And Ps. 110:1 is the definition for Jesus being Lord. Also he does not tell us that Jesus is “my lord” and “our lord” very often in the NT and there is no such thing as “my YHVH” or “our YHVH”! This shows that there is no equation or identity with YHVH. Jesus is our lord, my lord and God is YHVH.

    The older Cremer Lexicon (1878) of Gk NT is brilliant on Kurios:

    …in John 20:28 it cannot be ‘my YHVH,’ since YHVH never has suffixes…

    Christ is never called kurios o theos, the Lord our God, which would be quite unaccountable if YHVH were applied to Christ.

    …If Christ Lord, in Luk 2:11 includes YHVH it would be ‘YHVH Messiah.

    …Lastly for the designation of Christ as Lord, there is a special point of connection and explanation in the OT [suppressed by Bowman!], viz. Ps 110:1 (Mark 12:36, 37; Luk 2;11 and Acts 2:36. Stress is accordingly laid upon the authority and kingship given to Christ based on this appellation (adoni)—cp 1Cor. 8:4-6 “one Lord Jesus Christ.” Cp Jn 13:13, 14; Lk 6:46, why do you call me lord, lord).

  8. Sir Anthony, feel free to continue this dialogue in the different threads that are devoted to the subject of the deity of the Messiah, but two observations will suffice here (before moving this discussion to another thread): 1) Of the hundreds of thousands of Jews who have believed and who do believe in Yeshua, the vast majority believed and/or believe in his deity; 2) Others on the Line of Fire page whose positions agreed with Sir Anthony reached out to some rabbis here, and they are no close to faith in Yeshua then they were before.

    In any case, thanks for joining in the discussion and, again, I welcome you and other to continue the debate on another thread here devoted to the subject.

  9. I’m having a dialogue with a Jewish gentleman here, and he recently had this to say:

    Michael Brown is the king of misapplying scripture, eisegesis and cherry picking quotes and verses in his apologetics. He patches together a doctrine by bits and pieces. Never totally answering glaring fatal issues in his doctrine. Such as, him calling Jesus the guilt offering or Asham, in Is 53. Asham is only for a handful of sins and even according to Lev 5:11, does not even require an animal sacrifice, no blood, only flour will do as a sin offering. So, we are left with the fact that Jesus (assuming his sacrifice is legit) is a limited atonement. No where in Tanakh, is a messiah described as being a chatat, or sin offering or, Olah offering, Peace offering or any other type of offering. Brown also frequently runs to the Talumd, quoting midrash ignoring other midrash that stands in opposition and totally ignoring that midrash NEVER overturns P’shat.

    I thought Dr. Brown might appreciate the opportunity to comment on the accusations (though I understand and respect his limited time to engage!).

    Take care!

  10. Tom, what about the first part of Isaiah 63? What about Psalm 22? Who do modern rabbis suppose the Messiah is, seeing they have no present blood sacrifice?
    Remember John 6:48 through the end of the chapter. Many Jews were so repulsed they walked away. Bread and blood are both the issues here. Clever ways of denying Torah for modern knowledge should have no effect on you. Atonement is by blood, then and now.
    In Him, Ron M.

  11. Tom,

    I wish I could reply to every question and criticism, but that’s why I wrote five volumes Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus. Vol. 2 will be very helpful to you here, especially objection 3.15. That being said, point out to your friend that the Servant of the Lord in Isaiah 53:10 makes himself a guilt offering (‘asham).

  12. Ron: Thanks for the words, you’re absolutely right of course. Still, the reality of 2 Corinthians 3:14-16 is enough to make one weep.

    Dr. Brown: I’ve got the set, but its been some time since I went through them – thanks for the reminder and for giving me a starting point!

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