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Bo,
The Law IS the knowledge of good and evil. It is a super-example.
Men were NOT supposed KNOW from a piece of paper what to do – GRACE is an ENABLEMENT.
“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Rom 3:20
Are you ignoring Scripture on purpose?
A humble man submits to YHWH’s instructions. True justice is revealed in His law. It is not kindness to break YHWH’s commandments.
1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Bo,
The problem is that the Law is supposed to HUMBLE a man – look at the lamentation of the Psalmist who wrote 119:176
“I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek your servant, for I do not forget your commandments.”
This is the heart it was supposed to produce – a contrite heart; but the majority DID NOT PROPERLY APPLY THE TRUTHS IN THE LAW, and obtained a self-righteous and arrogant heart; therefore, they despised Jesus, the ACTUAL LAW IN FLESH!
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You ask me “WHEN” was it broken? The fact is that IT IS BROKEN, and Hebrews already told you that IT IS VANISHING AWAY. IT IS OBSELETE, yet you ignore Scripture after Scripture.
You wrote:
“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Rom 3:20
Paul wrote:
“Romans 7
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.”
Are you ignoring Scripture on purpose?
Bo,
You’re right, it isn’t kindness to break His Law; but you’re OVERLOOKING the Scriptures that say you are being unkind RIGHT NOW because you are ignoring the Law of God written in the Spirit by going back to the letters of the Law to live, thereby.
Bo,
I know you obey the law of old, But do you also obey Jesus’s teachings too?
Jesus says to pray for those who persecute you. Does it say that in the Law? Jesus says to give water to those who are thirsty, to visit those in prison. Are those instructions from Jesus in the Law of old?
Jesus gave us new laws to follow (new procedures, new teachings) We need to obey Jesus because Jesus is God.
So, again Bo do you also obey the teachings of Jesus too? There are many more to list. I believe its in the book of Matthew.
Bo,
Just like the Law made those old Jews hard-headed, I’m afraid you are being hard-headed, and proud.
Hebrews says that the levitical priesthood is vanishing away, not YHWH’s law.
And you still have not answered my questions.
Another thing…. Bo,
Do you preach the gospel to others or do you preach the law to save souls?
No, it says the “ministry of death” (which is the Law, since “the Law is the power of sin”) vs. the “ministry of the Spirit”. Is the Spirit comparable to a Priest? No; JESUS is comparable to a Priest. You are getting things mixed up.
I think you’ve received AMPLE answers; you have no response.
Debbie Fraser,
Yes I obey Y’shua’s teachings too. I believe and practice Genesis to Revelation…by YHWH’s grace and His spirit’s power. I love His law and love Him and His children by keeping His commandments. Anything else is not real love.
1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Shalom
His Commandments are known through the Spirit; not through letters on a page, if you want to acknowledge Scripture.
Thanks Bo, just wondering.
Dan1el,
You wrote:
“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Rom 3:20
Paul wrote:
“Romans 7
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.”
Paul says it can never be that the Torah, which is good, can be made death unto us. John says in Revelation that those that keep the commandments of YHWH will be the ones that get to eat from the tree of life. Those that have accepted the new covenant are supposed to love YHWH’s law. If we love it, we keep it.
Are you ignoring Scripture on purpose?
Shalom
Bo,
First you said “He never said there would be a new Covenant”; then you said, “there IS a new Covenant, but there is NOT a new Law”. So, you now understand that there IS a new Covenant, right?
Bo,
The Law is perfectly good, but humans are perfectly sinful; therefore, the sinfulness of man is highlighted and *exacerbated* by it.
The Word is not saying what you are TRYING to make it say!
Daniel,
You are making great, great points.
Debbie Fraser,
Praise God, I received these by God’s grace some time ago speaking with a brother who practices the Law “LOVE”.
Debbie,
“to the praise of His glorious grace”
It can do marvelous things.
“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Rom 3:20
Justified by the blood of the lamb and not by the works of the law…very, very true. Keep transgressing the law after justification…very, very dangerous.
1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Transgression of the law is still sin which equals unrighteousness. Those that do righteousness are the only truly righteous ones. The gospel is supposed to produce obedient children. Not give us excuses to transgress YHWH’s law.
Shalom
The wages of sin is DEATH (law is power of sin)
The gift of God is LIFE (the Spirit)
This is the ministry of death vs. that of the Spirit, understand?
Dan1el,
you wrote:
“Bo,
First you said “He never said there would be a new Covenant”; then you said, “there IS a new Covenant, but there is NOT a new Law”.
Where did I say that? I think that you misread what I wrote.
Shalom
Adam never had a written Law; just a Law directly spoken to him – same as Abraham.
You’re saying you shouldn’t break YHWH’s Laws, but if you can’t even PERCEIVE THE LAW OF GOD (like the BLIND HYPOCRITE PHARISEES), though you read and read and read it (and a veil lies over your eyes), you will NEVER KEEP HIS LAWS!!!
If we are trying to get saved or be justified by reading the letter of the law it is death. If we are living righteously, keeping every word that proceeds from YHWH’s mouth, by the power of the spirit that inspired the letters it is life. And then, and only then, will we get to eat from the tree of life.
I asked when the covenant was broken, not for verses that say it was. ***Does broken mean violated by the people or CANCELLED by YHWH?*** Does broken mean that it no longer existed from the point of violation?
Shalom
Here, you were refuting whether the Old Covenant was cancelled or not.
It says new covenant. Does it say new or different law or does it say that His law is written in a different place?
Shalom
Here, you capitulated.
Dan1el,
you wrote:
“Bo,
First you said “He never said there would be a new Covenant”; then you said, “there IS a new Covenant, but there is NOT a new Law”.
Where did I say that? I think that you misread what I wrote.
Shalom
Bo,
You’re ignoring Paul’s own lifestlye, as he himself said, “through the Law I DIED TO THE LAW”; whereas, he said, “Follow me as I follow Christ.”
I asked when the covenant was broken, not for verses that say it was. ***Does broken mean violated by the people or CANCELLED by YHWH?*** Does broken mean that it no longer existed from the point of violation?
Shalom
Here I asked questions that you have not answered.
It says new covenant. Does it say new or different law or does it say that His law is written in a different place?
Shalom
Here I show the difference between new law and new covenant.
Daniel,
you wrote:
“Bo,
First you said “He never said there would be a new Covenant”; then you said, “there IS a new Covenant, but there is NOT a new Law”.
Where did I say that? I think that you misread what I wrote.
Where did I say that? I think that you misread what I wrote.
Bo,
Paul served God THROUGH ABIDING IN CHRIST. CHRIST is the WORD of God, and if you want to obey God, you must ABIDE IN CHRIST, and the secret words that Christ speaks to you, you must receive, and live by.
Where did Paul break the law? If he follows Messiah that kept the law, how can he break the law.
Messiah’s secret words do not negate or contradict the revealed words.
Bo,
The answer was already given, in Heb 8:13.
You tried to refute it by saying, “that was having to do with the Levitical Priesthood”. I disagree.
Galatians 5 says anyone who even circumcised themselves (cut off their foreskins) were also cut off (play on words) from Christ. Also, days and feasts and festivals are mentioned — the observance of which astonished and frightened Paul.
These aforementioned things are not concerning Priesthood, but concerning feasts, concerning circumcision (which pre-dates Levitical priesthood), etc.,
Do you have a field? Do you follow agricultural Laws? If not, are you willing to be stoned to death?
Here is a word that Messiah spoke to all. His secret words do not contradict this.
Matthew 7
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of LAWLESSNESS.’
Matthew 4
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Matthew 5
17 THINK NOT that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in NO WISE PASS from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven.
Bo,
The Words Christ says ARE the Laws of God – which may be known APART FROM READING THEM. This is Jeremiah 31. His Word is deeper than anything we, in our own power, can comprehend (by reading the TNK).
So, you say that the Voice of God would never break “God’s Laws”?
What about in Genesis 9:3, when the Spirit of God told Noah to eat unclean animals? You don’t even know God’s Laws, apart from HIM, HIMSELF telling you.
“EVERY MOVING THING that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you EVERYTHING.”
Bo,
And what is lawlessness? His Command and Truth equate to LOVE MERCY, DO JUSTICE, WALK HUMBLY WITH GOD (and LOVE others in the SAME measure that God has loved you).
Jesus gave that Commandment! LOVE others in the SAME measure that I have loved you!
Have you fulfilled that commandment, in obedience to the Truth? Peter says, “You have obeyed the Truth unto a sincere love of the brethren.” THAT is what obedience to the Truth would turn into – and it is DIFFICULT; few enter, because of what must be sacrificed. Those who do not follow the Truth to its logical conclusion have “differing weights” (whereas mercy is shown to them, they do not show mercy – the parable of the unforgiving servant) and do not love, therefore – and are therefore called “lawless” for they are not keeping God’s Law and not abiding in His Truth.
Galatians 4
8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
It says that they were going back to keeping the days that they kept when they served false gods. The weak and beggarly elements are such things as: the year of the dog, rat and snake; December 25th/Saturnalia; Janus month, Mars month, etc.
The Galatians were pagans before and were returning to these pagan things. YHWH’s appointed times are not weak and beggarly…He calls them holy.
Dan1el,
You wrote:
“Do you have a field? Do you follow agricultural Laws? If not, are you willing to be stoned to death?”
I follow these laws. If there are two true witnesses that testify against me in a scriptural court, and am found worthy of the death penalty, I am willing to be stoned.
If I have committed anything worthy of the death penalty in this country and am convicted, I am willing to be put to death also.
Dan1el,
I have never said that there is no new covenant. You will look in vain to find me saying that. I say there is no new law. It is the same law written on our hearts now…That is what the new covenant does.
Shalom
Dan1el,
I am afraid that you do not read my words or the Bible’s words carefully.
Shalom
Bo,
If you want a Scripture as to the nature of any individual who desires to put someone under the Law, the Word has something to say about it…
“For even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.” Galatians 6:13
So, according to Scripture, what is the intention of these people who want to put others under the Law? They want to boast in flesh.
These are probably of the type of Acts 20:23 Messianic Jews who are “zealous for the Law”, but don’t even understand the New Covenant nor the Scriptures. They have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. It was a SURPRISE to the Jews that the Gentiles received the Spirit – why? They did not even understand the Scriptures which they boast of knowing – and, then, we have the poor little “untaught” Gentiles LIVING UNDER TEH NEW COVENANT, where God puts the Laws in their minds and hearts, PRAISED by Apostle Paul in Romans 2:14
“For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.”
This is not talking about just ANY Gentile; but it shows the evidence of the New Covenant – a Christian Gentile.
Bo,
The “lawless” Samaritan woman at the well could WELL understand the Law – “you’re guilty”.
After she admitted she had no husband, Christ responded by saying, “You have told me the TRUTH”
What is the Truth? She stood condemned.
Now, look at the Law-abiding Jews’ response to Jesus’s promise of freedom from sin:
“Do we not say rightly that you are a Samaritan and have a devil?”
These lawful people were UTTERLY lawless (that is the unpardonable sin)!!! They could NOT perceive the Truth! Though they THOUGHT they knew the Truth, they were UTTERLY BLIND. The Law produced a self-deception: self-righteousness: they couldn’t perceive (that the Law condemned them) at all.
Gal 3:10 “For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”
Joh 5:45 “Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope.”
Bo,
Today, if someone is guilty of a sin, “church discipline” is enacted, wherein the person is cut off from grace (existent in fellowship) in order to be shocked and humbled – to the end that he might repent – not stoning. No, stoning cannot be done by anyone except someone who has no sin – and even Jesus did not stone. No one will be “stoned” until the Day of Judgment — for on that Day, we will truly be without sin (since the Lord will utterly conform us to His Own Image).
“Do you not know that men will judge angels?”
Do you love God every moment of every day, without exception?
If not, are you willing to be stoned to death?
Has there ever been an idol in your heart at any time since the time you were born again?
If so, are you willing to be stoned to death?
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Mulling over the differences between the New and Old Covenants, I sort of did a little mspaint “illustration”…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64387436@N03/5864028046/
Dan1el,
Here is an article by a non-Messianic scholar that explains Y’shua’s actions with the woman caught in adultery:
http://av1611.com/kjbp/articles/jones-pericope.html
Please know that I do not share many of the beliefs of the author of this article or the website that it is located on. It is just a very good article by a very educated and intelligent man.
Y’shua upheld the law perfectly. Please read the article. Debbie Fraser thought it was good.
Shalom
Shalom
Dan1el,
Where did Paul break the law? If he follows Messiah that kept the law, how can he break the law.
Messiah’s secret words do not negate or contradict the revealed words.
The Galatians were pagans before and were returning to these pagan things. YHWH’s appointed times are not weak and beggarly…He calls them holy.
I have never said that there is no new covenant. You will look in vain to find me saying that. I say there is no new law. It is the same law written on our hearts now…That is what the new covenant does.
I am afraid that you do not read my words or the Bible’s words carefully.
Shalom
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