Abortion, Shedding Innocent Blood, and the Presidential Elections

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Dr. Brown broadcasts from Seoul, Korea, sharing what the Scriptures say about the shedding of innocent blood, discussing how this pertains to abortion with specific application to the presidential elections. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.

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  1. Genesis 9:6 states in Hebrew
    שפך דם האדם באדם דמו ישפך כי בצלם אלהים עשה את -האדם
    The key word is ba’adam. In the human being. This means the baby in the woman’s body.

    The Talmud says in Sanhedrin 57b,”A Gentile is executed for the murder of an embryo.”

    The Talmud says that abortion is forbidden for Gentiles as it is a part of the Noachide laws over all Gentiles.

    The Mishneh Torah says that an abortion by a Gentile is deserving of the death penalty.

    The laws of America are in opposition to this.

    This Gentile nation has disobeyed Hashem.

  2. In Judaism, the rabbis teach that after 40 days, an embryo in his mother’s womb, can no longer be aborted.

    Judaism teaches that the woman can have an abortion if the baby would kill her. But once the baby has come out of her a little bit, then even if it kills the woman, you cannot abort the baby.

    My rabbis in Jerusalem explained, being Jewish is opposite of being Christian. My rabbis had ten-plus kids with the same woman. “In Christianity, this is rare, such selfless love investing your life into children.” My rabbis words and perspective. Hashem finds a way to provide for the children. In America, abortion is the answer to women not getting out of shape. In Judaism, children are more important than one’s personal appearance.

    Adoption is better than abortion.

  3. I have heard but do not know if its true that Jewish Americans and African American Christians in majority with exception to a minority, vote against pro-life. I think this grieves Hashem. If you feel diferently, I am open to try to understand why so many Jews and Christians want abortions to continue in this land of the free except not free for the growing baby in the womb.

    Can you imagine what would happen if African American Christians and Jews became pro-life, we could end this abortion holocaust.

  4. Eliyahu,

    Thanks for the Hebrew lesson.

    It is true. YHWH does provide for us no matter how many children we have. Let me testify.

    The wife of my youth and I had 10 children. One with extra special needs. I even had years where I could not work or even walk sometimes. Here we are today with our youngest aged 14 and the oldest 2 married with 2 children each and one on the way each. YHWH is still providing faithfully.

    American society has trumped Biblical belief for most Christians and Jews too. They are fine with going into debt to lavish themselves with fancy cars and nice houses when the Bible says that debt is a curse. And they are fine with limiting their children when the Bible says that children are a blessing. But when you live for yourself instead of for the glory of YHWH, you get a lot of things backwards.

    We do not have a lot of earthly wealth, but we are truly rich in the things that matter. Investing in our children is the best investment for now and eternity. My wife has home schooled all of our children from day one till graduation from high school. The children worked for me and learned to do business the Biblical way. We are very different from the world and the worldly Christians. We are not perfect by any means, but we certainly stand out from religious and social mediocrity.

    Our children are committed to let YHWH plan their families and to teach them at home also. Seeing these Biblical values passed to the next generation is so much better than wondering if our children will some day come back to the faith.

    The fruit of self centered living in American Christianity and Judaism has produced more apostates than anything else. Atheists and agnostics and hedonists are not produced when we take the Bible at it’s face value and put it into practice with all of our hearts. But we lose our children to these things when we are self absorbed in our little kingdoms.

    Abortion is just the fruit of self-centeredness. It is proof of the worst kind of idolatry. Covetousness is Idolatry according to Paul. Lavishing ourselves always leads human sacrifice in the end…whether we kill ourselves via alcohol and drugs or murder our children on the altar of convenience while they are in the womb so that we can have more life as we like it. He who finds his life will loose it. He that will give up his life for the sake of Messiah and His kingdom will find it.

    Shalom

  5. Eliyahu,

    I am not that good. YHWH is good to have revealed His truth to us and to have given us the grace to walk in His ways.

    There are many more than you know. We have fellowship at the moedim with them every year. If you are in Israel, there is a group that we fellowship with often that is in the Har Brakha settlement from now until after the grape and olive harvests. It is called Hayovel. They are mostly home schooling Messianic believers that want to serve the Jewish people and bring restoration between the Jewish people and the sincere believers in Y’shua.

    This verse seems applicable:

    Ge 32:10 I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which thou hast shewed unto thy servant; for with my staff I passed over this Jordan; and now I am become two bands.

    Shalom

  6. Hi Bo and Eliyahu.

    Years ago I determined that abortion is to many, many women, empowerment of the highest order. They’re not going to hand it over or be inclined to go beyond thinking of what the abortionists have reduced the language of life to…such as using the word “embryo” and “fetus” as opposed to “baby” and “child,” and other such things.

    They’ve framed abortion as a “right” and anyone who disagrees is said to be against a woman’s “health care rights.” That would be true if abortion was, in fact, a health issue–I don’t believe it is, unless of course the mother and child are in critical condition–then, of course, it is a matter of health, otherwise, it’s nothing more than “Female Empowerment” and they’re not going to be giving it up…

    There’s a group that produced a short, maybe 3 minute animated video of an abortion procedure and a high number of people who considered themselves “pro-choice,” which is “pro-abortion” ended up changing their minds…imagine if the video was real and not animated…

    It’s very easy to distance ourselves from reality when we’re never introduced to it!!!

  7. I just do not get it. Women do not want to be treated as just a piece of flesh to be used or abused…but many of them do not see the parallel when they consider their babies as just a piece of flesh that it is ok to abuse to the point of murder. I guess the lust for power/empowerment is not just a male thing. Who would have thought that the tender ones that were designed to love and nurture would sink to this level. Woman sinned at first by wanting to be like YHWH. Then in women’s lib she lusted to be like a man and now she is willing to be like an animal that will destroy her young. I am totally undone by this and that there are people that will take money to help these women sacrifice their precious children.

    I know that there is great deception in the medical system and the public school system, but it is now in the so-called church. Those that have their children instead of aborting them are still willing to sacrifice them to the god of this world by letting them be indoctrinated in public education. Which is the bigger travesty…to abort your baby and have him or her go directly to YHWH or to have your children and let them go to hell by being deceived in public education that will teach them that killing their babies is acceptable?

    When the Son of man returns, will He find faith on the earth?

    Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    I would end with “Shalom” but there is no shalom in this.

  8. Que: will God hold Christians who vote for a pro-abortion candidate responsible for the innocent blood-shed by their representative’s endorsement of evil?

  9. Voting is laying hands on someone to put them into authority. So yes we are partakers of another man’s sins when we vote for a person.

    1Ti 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.

    Almost none of us know the people we vote for well enough to lay hands on them to put them into authority. Also when we vote for someone, we are giving them power of attorney to make our decisions for us and thus we are accountable for their decisions. Democracy is not a Biblical idea. It defiles and corrupts and causes us to be partakers in sin. It is best to come out of this system.

    Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    Shalom

  10. I believe that a fundamental error is being surmised in this dialogue. The error is that many seem to think that abortion is the “only” issue that concerns G-d in voting for a candidate. It is against the teaching of Scripture to vote for a racist candidate and who promotes violence and is a separatist as well. After all, G-d destroyed the earth with water because of that very reason.

    While abortion is indeed a gross sin, and one that should not be tolerated on any level, so are many other open sins that seem to be ignored. We don’t pick and choose which sins are deemed acceptable, as they all are an affront to G-d. I don’t endorse any sins, thus if this is the real issue (being sin) then don’t vote at all – or allow people to vote their conscience instead of picking and choosing which sins we want to brush under the rug, and judge others for not sharing our own personal convictions.

    Again, this is not written to endorse or excuse the shedding of innocent blood on any level, but it comes with the understanding that everyone has one vote and it must be according to their conscience. Notwithstanding, it should be noted that abortion became legalized in America in 1973, by a “conservative” supreme court. Since then, we have had several presidents that did not believe in abortion, but that has not stopped this sinful practice from continuing. Thus a pro-life president changes nothing, and the idea of espousing that the “only” litmus test for a Christian to vote is concerning abortion is a bit overboard and doesn’t line up to our historical precedence.

  11. Thanks, Benjamin, I meant to post the link.

    I didn’t realize there was 3 of them. I watched it because a pro-life group’s advertisement popped up in my newsfeed on FB. Guess they’ve got me pegged!

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