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  1. I want to apologize we got cut off. Thank you for the time. Basically you all admitted that the current State of Israel belongs to the antichrist, which was my point. I agree with you that we need to honor God and need humility and God’s Grace. Although we may disagree in theology, I appreciate your time and wish you all the best.

    Thank you and God bless!

    Rabbi Joe

  2. Joe,

    True that Israel is in a state of rebellion against their God and our Lord, Yeshua. Which is precisely the way God said it would be at this time according to His words in Ezekiel 36:16-24 and beyond. Verses 21, 22 and 23 are key to understanding Israel today.

    16 Moreover the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying,

    17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their way and by their doings: their way before me was as the uncleanness of a woman in her impurity.

    18 Wherefore I poured out my wrath upon them for the blood which they had poured out upon the land, and because they had defiled it with their idols;

    19 and I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

    20 And when they came unto the nations, whither they went, they profaned my holy name; in that men said of them, These are the people of Jehovah, and are gone forth out of his land.

    21 But I had regard for my holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations, whither they went.

    22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I do not this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which ye have profaned among the nations, whither ye went.

    23 And I will sanctify my great name, which hath been profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am Jehovah, saith the Lord Jehovah, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

    24 For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    -God says that he will regather Israel to the Land while the House of Israel is still profaning His name. It is only after they have been in the land that they will then come back to God.

  3. Benjamin,

    Where does it say in the above passage that Israel will be brought back while still profaning YHWH’s name? Where does it say that they will come back to YHWH after being brought back? I just do not see it. Help me.

    I see it to be the opposite way. Israel returns to YHWH in the places where He has scattered them and then they are brought to the land. Israel is yet to return or even be allowed by Judah to return…only the tribe of Judah/Jews have begun to return. Israel was scattered much more completely and is just now beginning to return to YHWH by keeping His commandments.

    De 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
    2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
    3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
    4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

    Shalom

  4. Sure Bo,

    If we keep reading Ezekiel 36, the next few verses tell us that Israel becomes cleansed after returning to Israel: Ezekiel 36:24-28:

    24 For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    25 And I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.

    27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep mine ordinances, and do them.

    28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

    -There are other passages which speak of this as well which I will cite below. But one thing that a lot of folks dont take into consideration is that there are two distinct worldwide regatherings mentions in Scripture. One in unbelief in preparation for judgement, and the other in belief in preparation for blessing. This really helps bring understanding to Israel’s current place in history and prophecy.

    Here is one that clearly indicates that Israel will be regathered in unbelief:

    Ezekiel 20:33-38

    33 As I live, saith the Lord Jehovah, surely with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out, will I be king over you:

    34 and I will bring you out from the peoples, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out;

    35 and I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there will I enter into judgment with you face to face.

    36 Like as I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I enter into judgment with you, saith the Lord Jehovah.

    37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant;

    38 and I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me; I will bring them forth out of the land where they sojourn, but they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am Jehovah.

    -This is a gathering out of wrath, and a gathering for wrath. They were gathered out of the wrath of the Holocaust. That they are first regathered in unbelief is seen from the fact that this gathering is ‘with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out’. God’s goal is Messianic kingship. This is also a regathering for a future time of wrath, when God will purge out the rebels from among them. Those who remain will turn to the Lord; they will be brought into the bond of the covenant, the new covenant of Jeremiah. They will be brought to national salvation. Then it will be a new nation, a regenerate nation that will be allowed to enter the Land under King Messiah for the final restoration.

    Tied into this is Ezekiel 22:17-22:

    17 And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying,

    18 Son of man, the house of Israel is become dross unto me: all of them are brass and tin and iron and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are the dross of silver.

    19 Therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because ye are all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.

    20 As they gather silver and brass and iron and lead and tin into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt it; so will I gather you in mine anger and in my wrath, and I will lay you there, and melt you.

    21 Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst thereof.

    22 As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I, Jehovah, have poured out my wrath upon you.

    This passages indicates a regathering in unblief because they are filled with the impurities of brass and iron and lead and tin. They are also gathered for a future time of wrath for the purpose of melting them and to purify them. So the purpose of this regathering in unbelief is for judgement, to bring them to national repentance. Only then will they experience the final worldwide restoration in faith.

    This brings us back around to my original passage about Israels regeneration, but also shows us that this regathering occurs before they are regenerated:

    Ezekiel 36:22-24

    22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I do not this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which ye have profaned among the nations, whither ye went.

    23 And I will sanctify my great name, which hath been profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am Jehovah, saith the Lord Jehovah, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

    24 For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    And one more which shows the regathering occurs in unbelief before Tribulation and judgement comes is Zephaniah 2:1-2:

    1 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation that hath no shame;

    2 before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of Jehovah come upon you, before the day of Jehovah’s anger come upon you.

    It is after this regathering for refinement, that regenerate Israel will be fully restored to the Land under her King described in Deu 30, from anywhere in the world.

  5. Hi Guys,

    I’ll have to go read it again, but it seems Ezekiel 22:17-22, could have been accomplished in the horrendous siege and fiery destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. The Lord rendered the punishment He described in one of His discourses concerning the wicked servants. We tend to tie all prophecy to either being “before” the time of Jesus, or, during the second coming. I think the destruction of Jerusalem must surely be one of those described by the prophets as well as that of the Lord.

    Just my thoughts.

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