Dr. Brown discusses the questions surrounding the forceful police arrest of a disruptive 16-year-old student, looking at the relevant issues – from lack of respect of authority to alleged racial mistreatment – and also discussing other relevant news and taking your calls. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.
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Hi Dr Brown , I thank GOD for your love and patience in your work . I don’t want to discourage anyone nor do I want to give up but I must be a realists . The show today reveals that this world is becoming more violent . You could see this today on your show when believers call in and forget the commandment to love your neigbor . When two Christians discuss something you have three arguments . Trying to teach them right from wrong is like herding cats. We as Christians are supposed to be the light of the world. This isn’t happening. This is why the world is dying.
The questions I have are about whether or not the police officer talked to the student like they do when someone is on the ledge of a building and threatening to jump, or when someone is held up in a building with a gun.
Did the officer try to resolve the matter in a diplomatic way first?
Did he discuss the situation with her explaining to her that the teacher must maintain order and use authority and that it’s an offence against everyone in the classroom to not comply with a teachers reasonable request. It’s even wrong to refuse to comply even when the request is a bit unreasonable. In such an event things are best discussed later.
Did he ask her to please let the teacher have her phone, and ask the teacher if it would be OK if her phone simply sat on the teacher’s desk undisturbed until the class is over, and at that time, could it be returned to the student?
Did he tell her that by refusing to comply with what the teacher asks, when it is a reasonable request, is to disturb the peace of the entire classroom?
Did he explain that what can happen is that she can be forcefully removed from the classroom very quickly, and that such a thing is not a comfortable experience, and sometimes there is some physical injury as a result, and that this us usually something that should be avoided if there is a better alternative?
Did he give her a bit of time to think some of this through?
These are some of the questions I have.
Paul wrote this to Timothy:
Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure. (I Tim 5:22)
I am completely amazed at how uninformed the general public and the callers who have said they are in emergency services. I suggest all who have said this officer did not handle this appropriately go take a training class in police tactics. I even ask Dr. Brown to do the same so he can understand the situation fully. I am a law enforcement officer. I have been a psych tech for troubled kids with mental disorders. I have also worked at a psych hospital for many years and at an ER. I have seen it all and been trained in it all. First of all the officer used less force than he could have, when attacked him he could have used a weapon, like mace or a taser. He instead decided to just use his hands. We are trained to end the situation as soon as possible so when we do have to go hands on we go 100%. This stops the situation immidiatly so it can not escolate. So the chance of injury is lessened. The sheriff who fired this officer should be removed from office. The reason why is now that school is a place of chaos. The students were just taught they can do what ever they want and the staff get in trouble. They have created a situation of no enforcement no authority and no justice. I can promise you the incident will now escolate. What a nightmare.
I think the officer did get a bit carried away and in hind sight I’m certain he wished he’d not tossed her after removing her from her chair, “however,” the fact that he had to physically expel her from her chair in the first place speaks volumes to the rampant disrespect we see all around us today with younger people. The truth is, she was asked 3 times prior by her teacher and a school administrator to leave the classroom! How is it she refused to comply with either request prior to the officer being called? Do rules not apply to her? It’s obvious she has no respect for those in authority over her and whether she wins a civil law suit or not, she’s equally to blame for the situation escalating to what it did. I’m not saying it was proper for him to toss her after getting her out of her chair, but, the fact remains it would never have gotten to that point had she shown any respect at all!
And, it can’t be said he was prejudice as he has an African-American wife!!!
Here’s some instructions for young people:
Proverbs 4
Listen, children, to a father’s instruction,
and pay attention so that you may gain discernment.
2 Because I give you good instruction,
do not forsake my teaching.
3 When I was a son to my father,
a tender only child before my mother,
4 he taught me, and he said to me:
“Let your heart lay hold of my words;
keep my commands so that you will live.
5 Acquire wisdom, acquire understanding;
do not forget and do not turn aside from the words I speak.
6 Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you;
love her, and she will guard you.
7 Wisdom is supreme—so acquire wisdom,
and whatever you acquire, acquire understanding!
8 Esteem her highly and she will exalt you;
she will honor you if you embrace her.
9 She will place a fair garland on your head;
she will bestow a beautiful crown on you.”
10 Listen, my child, and accept my words,
so that the years of your life will be many.
11 I will guide you in the way of wisdom
and I will lead you in upright paths.
12 When you walk, your steps will not be hampered,
and when you run, you will not stumble.
13 Hold on to instruction, do not let it go;
protect it, because it is your life.
14 Do not enter the path of the wicked
or walk in the way of those who are evil.
15 Avoid it, do not go on it;
turn away from it, and go on.
16 For they cannot sleep unless they cause harm;
they are robbed of sleep until they make someone stumble.
17 For they eat bread gained from wickedness
and drink wine obtained from violence.
18 But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light,
growing brighter and brighter until full day.
19 The way of the wicked is like gloomy darkness;
they do not know what causes them to stumble.
20 My child, pay attention to my words;
listen attentively to my sayings.
21 Do not let them depart from your sight,
guard them within your heart;
22 for they are life to those who find them
and healing to one’s entire body.
23 Guard your heart with all vigilance,
for from it are the sources of life.
24 Remove perverse speech from your mouth;
keep devious talk far from your lips.
25 Let your eyes look directly in front of you
and let your gaze look straight before you.
26 Make the path for your feet level,
so that all your ways may be established.
27 Do not turn to the right or to the left;
turn yourself away from evil.
New English Translation (NET)
Sheila,
When the kids are taught that there is no Creator of the universe that stands as the final authority and that they are just evolved pond scum, the only point in subjecting themselves to authority is only for self preservation or self benefit. They act like animals because they have been taught that is what they are. It is only going to get worse as long as parents send their children to be brainwashed by these unrighteous social engineers. You think the medical experiments and atrocities of Nazi Germany were bad, just wait 10 years for the fruit of our educational system to ripen. We have only seen the first fruits of unrighteousness and reprobate minds.
Shalom
I don’t believe that this was a matter of race, it was a student that was disrespectful and a case of an officer that handled it wrongfully. First of all, the girl did not commit a criminal act, hence she should not have been manhandled as such.
The teenager was disrespectful and only caused her own grief because of a lack of respect for authority; however, that should not have resulted in the officer’s violent actions. If the officer’s actions are deemed unjustified after a thorough investigation then he should be fired. A parent doing the same thing to their own child would be brought up on charges.
Her parents should have been called, and the child suspended for a good length of time and never be permitted to bring a cell phone into the school again. Just my thoughts.
Brannon — thanks so much for weighing in!
I’m a parent of children that suffer from PTSD, among other things, due to trauma. I recognize the behavior of the teenager that is being described. This is fight or flight. In her mind, this is about survival.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you are going about to prove your greatness by proving how lawless, how much of a gangster, and how “bad” you are, then – whether you are White, Black, Hispanic or anything else – why are you surprised when you have run-ins with the law?
You can’t have your cake and eat it too – you can’t invite trouble with your lifestyle, and then cry foul when you find it. If you’re bad, and that is your glory, then don’t be surprised when the law descends on you.
Simple as that.
I have much respect for you Dr. Brown as a teacher and seeker of Truth.
The first issue that must be addressed is the disrespect. The confrontation didn’t begin anywhere near this video. It began with disrespect. To the teacher, classroom, administrator, and finally the officer.
To answer your question is this a race issue. Yes and no. No:The situation itself and the officers response to the little girl could and should be looked at devoid of color. If that was a little sure girl that got tossed he should be fired. He was just as wrong as she was.
Yes: It’s 2015, it was a white police officer and black girl The media has been and will continue to cover divisive incidents if for no other reason than it sells ad space. The more malicious outlook being that in which since its conception there has always been a division in this nation between black and white. Since we have that history, until Jesus returns, there always will be. Sadly that effects the Body as well.
I do have one concern with how this issue was addressed on your program. However I will charge it your head and not your heart.
One lady called in, a mother of four, after a former school faculty member had voiced her lack of understanding that there was an officer in the school at all. The mother of four then said something along the lines of”Welcome to the new era.” That’s not a quote, but I think it’s the general idea. You agreed with that. However, you couldn’t seem to wrap your mind around the idea of letting the little girl stay in the class and/or school until later when she could have been barred from returning and perhaps avoiding any of the things that happened. I know, inconceivable to our time of learning, but it is a new era.
May God continue to bless you and your ministry sir.