Interpreting Some Controversial Israel Texts

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Dr. Brown examines some verses in the Scriptures that have been misunderstood concerning Israel and the Church and then takes your Jewish-related calls. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.

 

Hour 1:

Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: It remains a very simple proposition, if God scattered the Jewish people in His anger then no one can re-gather them; if we have been re-gathered, it is His doing.

 

Hour 2:

Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: If we confuse who the Church is, if we confuse who Israel is, we confuse our past, our present, and our future.

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15 Comments
  1. I just finished reading, “The Jewish Gospels: The Story of the Jewish Christ” by Daniel Boyarin. While he’s not a Christian or perhaps even a true believer in God as we understand it, (not certain yet) he is a Talmudic scholar who opens up the NT in new ways I never understood before.

    I’m recommending it to all believers!

  2. God not only did not abandon the Jewish people, he did not abandon the land of Israel.

    Leviticus chapter 26

    42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

    43 For the land shall be left by them, and shall enjoy its sabbaths, when it is in desolation without them; and they shall accept the punishment of their iniquity; because, even because they despised my judgments, and their soul abhorred my statutes.

    44 And yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them, and will not abhor them, to make an end of them utterly, to break my covenant with them, for I am Jehovah their God.

    45 But I will remember toward them the covenant with their ancestors whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, that I might be their God: I am Jehovah.

    (We have clear proof of God)

  3. If you took the equation of the Jewish people and the actual land of Israel and removed out of the equation the Jews, how do you explain the Holy land being a nation and called Israel?

    Is God’s providence clearly shown in just one side of the equation?

    Is there a replacement for the land of Israel?

    Or is Israel the land not the same as it has always been and in the providence of the almighty God of Israel?

    The land itself is the proof that was not even available at the time of Pascal who declared to the king of France when questioned ” give me clear proof of God!” There was not a land to point to in the 1600’s. Today we see both, we see a remembered covenant with both the land, and it’s people.

  4. It seems to me that one thing we should get from this is that the land belongs to Christ who is the promised seed, and he is the head of the body, the church, the called of the living God.

  5. Interesting thoughts, Ray.

    I still have a problem with how I have to be worried about being labeled as having a “replacement theology” or even worse “anti-semetic” because I am not decided on what I believe to be natural Israel’s role in the end times. There are many of us who are uncomfortable with what I would call an over-infatuation with natural Israel. If we have a humble, teachable heart and love ALL people equally we need not worry about becoming anti-ANY race. It’s really not that complicated to me. Doctrine doesn’t breed hate, hate is a condition of the heart. We can have different doctrines(non-essentials) and still walk in love and the Spirit.

  6. It’s not anti-semitic to want all to come the the knowledge of Christ- because in Him are the promises of God YES and AMEN!

  7. Agreed what God scatters can not regather itself. If God scatters only God can regather.

    Question what is meant in this verse Lev 26
    43 For the land shall be left by them, and shall enjoy its Sabbaths.

    How does a land keep sabbath? Is that counting in years using time that the Land will fulfill the covenants? Is this an argument that the blood moon could use this verse to show that the covenants would come through for the land and the people?

  8. Re Ray, and of course your comment is true- The land belongs to GOD! It was stated from the start, and it is on the front page every day now. Kerry is trying to divide what is not his to divide. This is going to get very interesting. God will not forget his covenant with the land and his people.

  9. Ray per radio program question are you a zionist?

    I am without a doubt unabashedly 100 percent a Zionist.

  10. I would not consider myself a Zionist and don’t see any clear NT teachings that encourage Christians to support any nations that opposes Christ. I love Dr Browns show and listen everyday. I have read most of his books and find him to be a great teacher and blessing to the body of Christ.

    -Brody

  11. But Brody by opposing Christ does that not bring in the fulfillment of the whole plan? If he was not opposed 2000 years ago you would not be here today.
    Cant you see that the same opposition today brings about salvation?

  12. Hi Jon,

    I am not sure what you are saying has any bearing on this conversation, as many people groups oppose Christ and His gospel.

  13. The Apostles understood that the country and government of Israel would be restored (Acts 1:6). And the Lord confirmed it in Acts 1:7.

    Acts 1:6-7
    6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

    7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

    With Jesus’ response He confirmed that the Father, in His power, has a set time and season for the restoration of Israel. It’s just not for the Apostles to know when. So the Apostles were spot on, they were just early in their thinking of when it would happen. The main point is that Jesus confirms that it will happen.

  14. Yes Brody that is true, However there was (is) a plan for a specific place/specific time/specific way/specific people/specifics/specifics/specifics.
    So, when you have thousands of years of this being in the Torah, and now 2000 years since the Messiah do you not think that

    specifics would still be in place?

    We have a specific terrific God.

  15. It seems to me that the Lord’s disciples were asking him when he would restore power and authority to Israel, taking it away from the Roman empire.

    I suppose that we could say that that has happened, but we don’t yet see very much of the kingdom of heaven manifest yet.

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