Dr. Brown interviews Dr. Paul Wilkinson, author of Understanding Christian Zionism, as they discuss the biblical errors of the anti-Zionist movement, the political prejudices, and the upcoming “Christ at the Checkpoint” conference in Bethlehem. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.
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Oh wow. I am really looking forward to today’s broadcast. Paul Wilkinson is a personal friend of mine and has a lot of insight into this particular topic. Thanks Dr. Brown for having him as a guest today. It should be a very good interview.
Hi Mike,
Having a guest like Dr.Wilkinson on your show is just another reason why I’ve been a follower of “Line of Fire” for these past 3 years.
Replacement Theology has and is again rearing it’s ugly head in the church body today. Like a cancer that fosters anti-semitism, it must be eradicated through God’s WORD. Thank you, Mike for standing With Israel through these very troubling and challenging times.
Woww! Love it!
I recently found numerous Israeli-Arab Christians who are extremely pro-Israel and Zionists. People such as Greek Orthodox priest Gabriel Naddaf (his son was actually attacked by anti-Zionist Palestinians, and Gabriel Naddaf remains under level 4 security threat). I will post the link to a playlist, most of their interviews are either in Hebrew or Arabic, but fortunately there are some with subtitles such as this playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44lTT58GVKOQMxryilSb_bY4KbQYdhQ-
Another interesting show on Channel 1 in Israel is called:
The Israeli Christian’s dilemma of joining the IDF – English Sub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm9-jGNS1vE
I will definitely be checking out more of Dr. Paul Wilkinson’s work. I have had friends recommend his work before, primarily on Calvinism, but I’m absolutely going to check out his work on Christian Zionism/anti-Zionism.
Dr. Brown,
I went to the ‘Christ at the Checkpoint’ website and saw that Dr. Billy Wilson is listed as a speaker of the upcoming conference. Dr. Wilson is the new president of my alma mater (ORU). I have heard nothing but great things about Dr. Wilson. Are you and your guest asserting that he is anti-Israel, anti-semetic, anti-zionist or just that he has been duped? I would be shocked to learn that he was hostile to the Jewish people or the state of Israel. Would you consider having him on your program to discuss his participation in the conference and his views on Palestine, Israel, zionism, etc. ?
http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/index.php/speakers/131-william-wilson
Below is a copy from the independent Catholic news that I read on March 04 2014. This is just the last part of the article and is exactly what the antizionism is doing right now. Thank you Dr. Brown for bringing this important subject to light and truth.
“”Israel has been very shrewd in concocting devious ways and means to impose its will on the Palestinians and keep them weak and divided. It continues to connive ways to limit and even deprive them of their rights to the land so they will give up and leave.
I am certain that the Christian community in Israel will see through this new Israeli legislation, will expose its sinister nature, and reject it. It is my hope also that our people’s resilience and maturity will foil the Israeli government’s insidious objectives. This we can do through our unity and solidarity, as well as through our determination to continue to work for a just peace, inclusive democracy, and human dignity for all the people of our land.”
Here is the full article to see the the ugly side for what it is.
Christian groups in the Holy Land are rejecting a controversial new law that distinguishes between Muslim and Christian Arab citizens for the first time. On 23 February, 2014, the Israeli Knesset enacted the law that recognizes Muslim and Christian Arab communities as separate identities, giving them their own representation in an employment commission. The law passed by a margin of 31 to 6.
Palestinian Anglican priest, Rev Naim Ateek, from the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Centre writes: “The new law passed by the Knesset favouring Christians is, to say the least, a deceitful political stunt by Likud-Beiteinu members aimed at sowing seeds of division among Christians and between Christians and Muslims.
“For the last 65 years, the government of Israel has not shown favouritism or bias towards the Christian community of the land, so why now?
“During the Nakba of 1948, the Christians, like the Muslims, were dispossessed by the Zionists and were forced out of their homeland. Furthermore, during the military rule imposed by Israel on all Palestinians who stayed inside the Israeli state (1948-1966), Israel did not show favoritism to Christians over Muslims. Both were discriminated against and both were treated as unwanted aliens in their own land. There is a plethora
of documentation to substantiate the history of that period. The problem for Israel in those days was not the Palestinians’ religious affiliation but their Palestinian national identity.
“I believe that the new law reflects the moral bankruptcy of the government of Israel. Indeed, it must be in trouble to allow itself to stoop so low as to blatantly use this tactic to attempt to win the support of some Christians abroad, and, at the same time, sow dissent among Christians and Muslims. It is the old adage of “divide and rule.” This law is sinister in that it exploits the sensitive tensions among the religious communities of the Middle East, especially in light of what has been happening in Egypt and now is happening in Syria.
“I am certain that the Palestinian community is mature enough not to fall into such a despicable religious trap.
“There is another dishonest and hidden angle to this law. Jewish religious tradition has always considered Christianity, not Islam, as the mortal enemy of Jews and Judaism. This is due to the fact that the Christian faith came out of the same foundation as the Jewish faith, namely, the Hebrew Scriptures, i.e. the Christian Old Testament. I still remember the Israeli religious establishment discouraging Jewish students from visiting Christian churches while encouraging them to visit Muslim mosques. The advisory
pointed out that there was greater affinity between Judaism and Islam, while the gap was quite wide between Judaism and Christianity.
“What has caused this sudden infatuation with Palestinian Christians to merit new legislation? Or is it just an ugly political stunt? What favours can the right-wing Israeli government give the Palestinian Arab Christians who are Israeli citizens? Will it restore their confiscated land to them? Will it grant them equality with their fellow Jewish citizens? Or are we witnessing another divisive Israeli ploy similar to when Israel set the Druze community apart from its Arab base?
“It is worth mentioning that over sixty years ago, Israel managed to make the Druze religion a separate ethnic entity, thus separating them from their Arab roots. Through this new legislation, Israel wants to make the Christian religion a separate ethnic identity in order to separate them from their Arab Palestinian roots. But in spite of what Israel has done to the Druze community, an increasing number of young Druze men have been resisting imposed Israeli military service.
“Israel has been very shrewd in concocting devious ways and means to impose its will on the Palestinians and keep them weak and divided. It continues to connive ways to limit and even deprive them of their rights to the land so they will give up and leave.
I am certain that the Christian community in Israel will see through this new Israeli legislation, will expose its sinister nature, and reject it. It is my hope also that our people’s resilience and maturity will foil the Israeli government’s insidious objectives. This we can do through our unity and solidarity, as well as through our determination to continue to work for a just peace, inclusive democracy, and human dignity for all the people of our land.”
Thanks, great show!
Coming from the south-west of England I can certainly concur with everything Paul Wilkinson is saying about anti-zionism and common theological ‘errors’ in UK churches.
Until fairly recently I had been sitting uncomfortably with Calvinism, amilennialism, and replacement theology (implied, because the significance of modern Israel is never mentioned on Sunday or in home groups I’ve been in).
What a blessing the internet is that anyone can access the best teaching from anywhere.
Having no idea what replacement theology and anti-zionism were… Just by reading scripture I feel I was taught to love Israel and in no way have I thought Israel was disowned or replaced.
It’s pretty clear to me anti-zionism and replacement theology are distortions or misrepresentations of scripture that come from the fallible (some well-meaning) minds of men.
I don’t believe God is done with Israel at all, though he is done with Israel being under the old covenant.
God has completely put away Israel under the old covenant, as he has invited Israel and welcomed them into the new covenant.
Ray I agree the whole world is focused on Israel. Israel is the center story for every nation. John Kerry and Oboma are obsessed with Israel, to say God is done with Israel in this present history is starting to look ridiculous.
Ray, it also depends on what you mean by the old covenant. There are many covenants in the Old Testament eight in total (or at least 7 and a reference to a future covenant). Do you mean the Mosaic covenant, Abrahamic covenant, etc, etc.
Two of the covenants are conditional: the Edenenic and the Mosaic.
Eight of them are Unconditional: the Adamic Covenant, the Noahic Covenant, the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land Covenant, the Davidic Covenant, and the New Covenant.
So while Israel is invited into the new covenant, there are several covenants which they will always have going which are unconditional.
It’s called apartheid.
Oral Roberts University is getting away from their “Evangelical” roots. How do I know this? A couple of teachers in my classes said that ORU was getting away from the word evangelical. a question was posed to the new president of ORU – Dr. Wilson as to why the university was getting away from the word evangelical. The reason given was the university had taken a poll with their students. The students said that the word “evangelical” represented a political Jesus. Yes, you heard that right–>> a political Jesus. So the university is NOW removing the word. However, that is getting away from the very roots of the university. ORU was founded by an evangelist(Oral Roberts) and dedication by an evangelist(Billy Graham). So it is not surprising that the new university is being overhauled to fit the modern-day sentiments of the politically correct crowd. This would explain why they are removing their support of Israel. Oral Roberts was a staunch supporter of Israel and would not want his name connected with such an event as Christ at the Checkpoint. However subtle it all is, it is deception plain and simple. Israel is God’s prophetic time clock and nothing is going to change that. God’s blessing will be removed from those at ORU who are participating in this event.