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Doctor Michael Brown:
I saw “Something” interesting in your name today. You make think it “Odd,” but I found Truth in it. It’s no secret that names often prophesy, as I believe does yours.
The root or origin of “Doctor” is Latin; meaning “to teach” or “teacher.”
The name “Michael” is Hebrew; meaning “Who is like God.”
The color “Brown” can symbolize “compassion” or “humility.”
If the dots are connected there is significance. –
Compassionate, Humble, Teacher, Who is like God.
Yes, indeed. I would agree. – Shalom.
On today’s show Dr. Brown — yet again — was touting the careful and extensive end noting in his “Queer Thing” book.
I groan every time he does this.
The sourcing in his book is HORRIBLE. Unacceptable, really. And that mean that in the most literal way.
I teach research methods and I would literally not accept such footnotes from anyone above about seventh grade. I’d hand the paper back and tell the student to do it over.
Dr. Brown highly sloppy practice of simply pasting a URL is an exercise in frustration for the reader but the unacceptable part happens when you actually get to one of his sources.
Dr. Brown will base a lengthy argument on a factual claim, base a whole argument around it, but the “fact” is never actually documented. Often the footnote leads to some secondary, agenda-driven web site where the “fact” is never established let alone footnoted. It’s not even attempted.
Sometimes the footnotes actually made me laugh out loud!
For one outrageous claim, he “documents” that someone passed it to him! Rumors don’t need to be footnoted, Dr. Brown. You can just mention that in the text.
Worse, to bury that your source is a rumor or from a partisan blog in the endnotes is a form of deception.
The vast majority of people will only read the text and not realize that there is no basis for your claim and, thus, your argument.
Sheri,
>>It’s no secret that names often prophesy,
They certainly do in mythology and religious literature.
But, in real life, it’s totally up to the beholder.
For example, Barach Hussein Obama’s middle name means “good”, “handsome” or “beautiful.”
His first name means “blessed.”
So President Obama’s prophetic name means “good blessings” or “beautiful blessing” which, to me, is a really nice name for a leader.
But lots of conservatives like to say “Barach Hussein” (rather than the traditional “President”) Obama because they think Obama is a covert Muslim with a secret agenda to end Christianity.
The more informed conservatives know better but they cynically want to feed xenophobia.
In any regard, I think it is sweet how you found meaning in Dr. Brown’s name. It’s a positive thing. But prophetic? Probably not.
Greg,
I hesitate to reply to your constant attacks on this issue (and when I do see the posts, which is only rarely, I simply ignore them), but the bibliography to the Queer Thing book — not citing ANY internet sources, which were cited in the book as such for the benefit of the reader — puts the lie to your post. That being said, your strong biases in this issue, constantly taking an unbiblical stance towards homosexual practice — voids your objectivity, sad to say. Again, I’ll not engage in further interaction with you on this, but please recognize that false attacks like this do become odious on your end and make a further mockery of your position. Here’s the link to the bibliography of works consulted or cited in the book. http://aqueerthing.com/content/bibliography-and-index One last point: Had you been attacking someone else the way you’ve attacked me, you would have been barred from the site a long time ago. I’d encourage you to stay with the issues and not keep lashing out so you can enjoy participating here on our page. Thanks for stepping higher and complying.
Look at this quote from 1880 on what is a Socialist.
“That’s when all are equal and all have property in common, there are no marriages, and every one has any religion and laws he likes best.”
Who wrote this?
I can see from this old quote today- Gay marriage is not about marriage at all. We have gone down a path of breaking down marriage, hence NO Marriages.
Are we not in a time of religion using the laws we like best.
Is this why evil must destroy the Jews? To break down religion you must take out those who observe it closest, His people. Socialism breaks down society to impart the laws that man likes best- Who needs God?
Brother Mike,
I had the opportunity to listen to your debate with James White at the 9:00 hour. It was excellent! I really appreach your approach, reasoning and what I believe to be clear biblical answers to the subject matter. I notice that James never addressed the “world” position that you continuously posited. Additionally, his idea that the atoning work of the High Priest was not for the whole nation is quite flawed, and I am surprised that he argued that it was not for the sins of the whole nation….. Again, wonderful job!
Shalom
The Atonement
Leon Morris
“The day was a great national occasion and many scholars hold that, in accordance with this, it was the sins of the nation as a whole rather than those of individuals that were primarily in mind. This is not unreasonable. But certainly in later times it was held that the sins of individuals were covered by the observances of this day and it is not at all improbable that this idea was there from the first.”
Pg. 73 – The Significance of the Day of Atonement
Listened to the debate on the subject of Healing, with James White. Once again, Mike did a fantastic job with his presentation of healing being active and present today. I appreciated how Mike brought out James position of argumentation in presenting his case more from experience and inferrence as opposed to “what the Bible says.”
Though James speaks intelligently and loves to use systematic theological language and expressions, one can move through that smoke screen and find that when the clouds are moved away, the simplicity of the gospel stands sure in declaring that nowhere do it say that the gifts of the Spirit have ceased with the departure of the apostles…. Great job, Mike
correction – “nowhere does it say…”
Blessings, Michael.
During the debate, I heard James White make the comment that we don’t know who the elect are. I also heard James make a reference to 2 Timothy 2:10.
“I endure all things for the sake of the elect…”
Here is that verse in its entirety….
2 Timothy 2:10 (KJV)….
Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
I believe Paul knew exactly who the elect were/are. And I believe the scriptures tell us.
Romans 9:3-4 (KJV)…..
For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
Romans 11:13-14 (KJV)….
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Acts 28:20 (KJV)….
For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.
Now look again very closely at 2 Timothy 2:10…
“Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that THEY ALSO (in contrast to the non-elect) may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.”
Paul’s heart was always for his fellow Israelites. In other words, 2 Timothy 2:10 could have just as easily said……
“Therefore I endure all things for the sake of my kinsmen, according to the flesh, that they too (in contrast to the Gentiles) may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.”
Put simply, I believe Israel and/or the Jews are God’s elect people and the Gentiles make up the non-elect. And that both, according to 2 Timothy 2:10, can obtain salvation which is in Christ Jesus.
I would appreciate your thoughts.
God bless.
Romans 8:33 (KJV) seems to be speaking to the church at Rome, which seems to me to be mostly Gentile believers.
Yet in other places it might mean someone else who is of the Church.
Now I wonder if “us” is implied by the word “also” in II Tim 2:10, which would be Paul and Timothy.
Wingfooted, I’m thinking you might be right about that, Israel being the elect in II Tim 2:10.
Someone in the Q&A portion of the debate asked James White the following question.
“if he (James White) has ever issued the gospel invitation to everyone in a room of christians and non-christians. If so, is that not something dishonest because, according to Dr. White, our Lord didn’t necessarily die for everyone in that room.”
To that White responded that while speaking at a masque in south Africa… “I made it very clear that anyone who turns in faith and repentance to Jesus Christ will find him to be a perfect Saviour. That is exactly the same message that the apostles delivered. I do not have to know the identity of the elect. I simply have to present the gospel.”
Perhaps James White might need to re-read what the apostle Paul wrote in regards to “the gospel”…
1 Corinthians 15:1-5 (NKJV)……
Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures….