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What is the meaning of the leaven of the Pharisees? Is confession to a priest, as practiced by Catholics, biblical? It’s that time again! Challenge Dr. Brown with your hardest questions about theological or moral/cultural issues, questions regarding Israel and the Jewish people, and revival!
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Dr. Brown’s Bottom Line: We’ve reflected a lot this week on discipleship and what it means to follow Jesus. We’ve asked the question, “Are we as devoted to bringing life as radical terrorists are to bringing death?” Let me remind you, we’ve got one life to live. We get one crack at it: one shot, one opportunity! Make your life count; redeem the time in these evil days, and glorify Jesus. You will never, ever regret it!
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Leaven makes me think of Pesach (Passover). Unleavened bread and leavened bread have the same amount of wheat. But if you look at them both the leaven bread looks five times as big. The difference between a prideful human being and a humble human being is none. Both human beings will die within a hundred years, both human beings need Yeshua desperately to receive eternal life. Yet a prideful human being through his knowlegde perhaps, becomes puffed up enormously thinking of himself as five times greater than the humble human being. Lol. Humility what I wise thing to attain.
Catholics pull out the John 20:21-23. Lol. This verse says that Jesus gave the apostles the Holy Spirit and then says something like those that you will forgive will be forgiven and those that you won’t forgive will not be forgiven.
Thus the Catholics say that the Priests have this same power to forgive and not forgive sin.
Lol. I am sorry. But I find this ludicrous. What if I go to the Catholic priest that is athiest or homosexual or whatever. Ok. But I can not see any evidence from the rest of Scripture to confirm these wild assumptions that man can make me unforgiven if he so chooses. Jesus forgives me, I do not need a man, a sinful man, to agree with Jesus before Jesus’ forgiveness comes into effect. Im sorry, I do not buy that for one bit. You Catholics can trust your humans for forgiveness, I will go to my God for forgiveness.
However, the Catholics have many many church fathers that agree with them much like the Orthodox Jews have a immensible amount of Talmud rabbis that agree with them. Those church fathers that agree with the Catholics are: Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hypollytus, Origen in Homilies, Cyprian in the Lapsed, John Chrysostom in the Priesthood etc. To all that believe as I do, please be respectful to the Catholics because they do have quite alot of church fathers that uphold this Catholic doctrine.
I disagree with these church fathers, and I see no evidence from Scripture that would suppose that I can not be forgiven unless a human being permits me to be forgiven. God alone can forgive my sins and make righteous in Yeshua HaMashiach.
However, humilty comes with confession of our sins to one another. The joy comes when we find brothers that we can truly trust full of the Holy Spirit that use our confessions of our sins to edify us, not gossip about us. Confession of sins is a wonderful way to be a humble human being, feeling light, yet we need to find someone worthy, full of the Holy Spirit, a true brother, a true friend and disciple of Jesus. Peace.
Hey, to the caller Dale. Woonsocket, RI is like 10 mins from where I live. Welcome to the kingdom of God.
I’m curious as to where you go to church. You should check out Tri County Full Gospel Fellowship. Its located in Franklin, Ma. Come visit.
Fascinating show.
Dr. Brown, when did you say you will be on Dr. James White’s show? You said you were going to be talking about your book on there, curious of the date. I would love to listen to it.
Blessings!
As I was listening, the song “What a Friend we have in Jesus” came to mind…all our sins and griefs to bear…
Truly what a privilege we have, to take every thing to God in prayer.
That word privilege is a good word to look up in a dictionary.
What Eliyahu wrote about a friend, caused me to think…What happens when you tell a friend you made a mistake or did something wrong? A friend will want to help. A friend will want to comfort you. A friend will go leave what he is doing and do what he can to help you fix the situation. A friend will enjoy helping you because he’s dwelling in the love of God. He gets energized. A friend will want do do something that will heal the situation. A friend will go with you. A friend will carry something for you. A friend will do something if you can not. A friend will be there for you. A friend will open doors for you. A friend will bring a tool or a gift for you to use. A friend will let you use something he has. A friend will loan you something that you can use. A friend will help you think something through. A friend will walk with you. A friend will strenghten and support you. A friend will give you aid.
Eric,
Dr. White and I are scheduled to discuss my book on his show on Thursday, 7:00 PM EST. Thanks for the interest!
About the word generation in Matt 24:34, we could compare the use of the word generation in Matt 1:1, where Jesus is one generation (and Adam another), Matt 1:17 where generations were sons of the fathers, Matt 3:7, where Jesus called some people a generation of vipers, Matt 11:16-19, where Jesus said wisdom is justified of her children (compare with James 3:15-17) Matt 12:34,35 (the two men, one good and the other evil)…this is from typing the word generation in my electronic concordance and seeing what comes up in Matthew’s gospel.
I don’t do hardly anything in Greek or Hebrew. I tend to trust the translators. The idea I get is about how the Bible is about two men, the first Adam and the last Adam which is Jesus. His generation is the Church isn’t it, all who believe in him?
So I think it could be read that way. I think of Isaiah 53:8.
So there’s a generation that still needs to be saved isn’t there? They’re still here…they’ve been multiplying haven’t they? Is that the harvest?
I think it could be read that way.
Thanks Dr. Brown.
I looked up the word generation in my English dictionary. It didn’t seem to be of much help, except there is a use of the word that speaks of
all the people born and living at the same time.
Then, what is time in the eyes of God?
I Peter 3:8 comes to mind.
Dr. Brown,
What are your thoughts on the The World English Bible: Messianic Edition (WEB:ME)… AKA HNV – Hebrew Names Version… As far as restoring Jewish roots and such I’m sure it does a wonderful job, however the translation in and of itself as it’s literal or paraphrase etc etc.. What would be the best way to classify such a version and would you recommend using it to study with? (I did note you said to use various translations to study with, but could I use this version as a primary study Bible?)
Thanks,
Blessings!
@min 19:
TaNaK … JPS version?
@min 31:
“Jesus was talking about the things pertaining to the destruction of the second temple… but Jesus was also talking about thing that have to do with His return at the end of the age… that cannot be rightly applied to His return.”
1 John 2:18
“Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour.”
What do you think about this? That the Apostle, John, interpreted [what became] Matthew 24 in this way?
Matthew 24 talks about false christs coming — and even working powerful signs — after the abomination of desolation. 1 John was written AFTER the temple’s destruction; and it seems John understood these things to be signs of the end of time, saying “IT IS THE LAST HOUR”.
***”…that cannot be rightly apply to the destruction of the Temple.”
Dr. Brown,
Why do you say they didn’t have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of them, like we do?
1 Pet 1:11
“…inquiring what person or time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN THEM …”
Elisha’s bones were so anointed that they resurrected a man.
I don’t understand why people say this…
@min 1:24:00 (about what race the Israelites were:
You said that Israelites probably mixed together with Egyptian blood; so there might be some “african”/black mixed into the early Israelites)
Interestingly enough, the “blood type” tests of Pharaoh “Tut” (if I’m not mistaken) have proven to be 99% (or some overwhelming number like that) similar to “blood type” of what we know today as the Irish. (Now that I think about it, this could be a false test result, created to incite racial tensions; but, these are the results that we have so far); i.e.: the Egyptians were not a dark-skinned people.
Be that as it may, all men are created “in the Image of God” (Epistle of James affirms this); so, regardless…
People have romanticized ideas of reality; but this has nothing to do with reality.
@min 1:36:20-35 “Vitamins”
Why buy “vitamin” packs? That stuff is dead.
Bitter greens (dandelion, kale, etc.,) + fruit = smoothies = 100% essential vitamins, 100% essential minerals, 19 of 22 amino acids. Plus, it tastes great, it is living food [dealing life], and helps GREATLY in the effort to keep the weight down. Even just having a single green shake per day helps a ton!
Just +FYI! Hope this makes your life easier!
Because there is nothing impure in Jesus, a little bit of anything that is impure causes trouble with ourselves and the other members of the Body of Christ.
I suppose in comparing it to leaven, Jesus is telling us of how it can quickly multiply.
I used to home brew my own beer with yeast. By doing that I could see how the yeast caused an
effect upon the mixture.
The yeast came in a dry packet and it didn’t take much to cause the change.
The next day we would call each other and ask, “Is your beer happy?” because in a day it should be bubbling away through the air lock which had water in it, and it smelled good if it wasn’t ruined by some foreign bacteria.
What a change it made!
A little yeast can do a lot. Sometimes it was like watching a lava lamp.
We as Christians are happy and tend to bubble with the joy of the Lord when we do his will, when we live as he wants us to live. We get an energy to do good. It’s his life in us.
The air in our lungs feels better. We should feel filled with his life. But a little leaven can ruin the whole thing. So we need to pray and find out whatever it is and come to the cross. Something needs to die before we are filled with the life of God again.
If we are doing the things of God we should feel alive. We should be sensitive to how we feel. Now it seems to me that just because we have trouble, that doesn’t always mean that we are not pursuing his will. There is always trouble on the way to heaven.
The Pharisees Jesus talked about as having leaven, were missing out on the life more abundantly that Jesus talked about.
On the day of Pentecost when the holy spirit was given, some said that the men were drunken, but I think that was hypocrisy, a little bit of leaven.
It seems to me that when the disciples of Jesus received his word, the spirit of God that was in it, was received by them, but there was more yet to be given.
When the holy spirit was given on Pentecost that was like a good leaven. How quickly it changed things!
As the Spirit of God is contrary to the leaven of hypocrisy, there is a battle that goes on. Once we win a battle that has gone on in us, we should have some ability to help others. That ability will be because we are connected to him and filled with his life. The more we are free from the bad leaven, the better our help to others should be.
Leaven wasn’t always a bad thing:
Jesus compared the Kingdom of God to “leaven”, as well; and Paul said, “knowledge PUFFS UP; but love BUILDS UP,” so…
1] …the leaven of the pharisees PUFFS UP; but
2] …the leaven of the Kingdom of God BUILDS UP
Well, leavens definitely spreads. It could be bad and good.
Ray…Are you a Pastor???
What you said in post #19
“We as Christians are happy and tend to bubble with the joy of the Lord when we do his will, when we live as he wants us to live. We get an energy to do good. It’s his life in us.”
My Pastor talked about that today too. The energy you get when you have faith and peace in the Lord.
I also learned this today too. “When a negative person comes into your life and acts mean and nasty to you. Do not allow them to “effect you”, but you should “effect them”. By giving a smile or whatever good the Holy Spirit is leading you to do.
I just love how the Lord is carving us to be like Him.
Ray you are correct in saying when you are living the way the Lord wants you too, His oil of joy, his light shines so strong in you. Us Christians need that, especially in today’s world where darkness and fear walks among us.
I can feel the Lord’s light shine in me. People smile at you, they beep their horn at you as they drive by you as your walking outside. Glory goes to God.
Lord let us decrease for you will increase in us.
I have been told some things in the past.
I’ve been told I am a pastor, that I have the heart of a pastor. I was a congregant, but I think something of a gift was beginning to show.
Here’s something I want to share about yeast. When yeast is added to the beer mixture which had been boiled and then cooled, it must be added at the proper temperature so as not to kill the yeast. We used to use a thermometer to check the temperature of the wort.
We had a degree window, but the wort had to be
lukewarm.
If it was too hot or too cold the yeast would not
reproduce. It would be killed because of the wrong temperature.
Some of the most difficult things we encounter come from religious people.
I wonder if I have met anyone in this world that can not be influenced by leaven. I think that’s why Jesus told his disciples to beware of it.
The more aware of it we are, the more we should avoid those who are much taken in by it, as long as they are not in that condition. I think of Romans 16:17.
There is a quite a bit of information on this in the Pilgrim’s Progress. A character named ByEnds
who was from the town of Fairspeech, had friends who no doubt were much affected by this leaven. These characters met up with them while they were on their way to Celestial City. In my version of the book the chapter on this is, The Pilgrims and the Deceitfulness of Riches.
This section of the book caused me to laugh, but I also remember how Jesus said, “Woe unto you who laugh now, for you shall weep.” (Luke 6:25)
Apparently this leaven affects so many and at times we don’t seem to recognize it. It seems so often that one can think it’s only the other man who has the problem of it.
Debbie, what you and your Pastor said about what happens to us when we live the way the Lord wants us to is right, and what you say you feel (at the end of post 22) is right.
I used to get irritated at cars honking at me. I know that it’s often because of the way I drive, but the Lord was showing me something else the other day.
Sometimes people honk because of the word of praise I have on my rear window, and it’s their way of rejoicing.
I heard of a man who was healed because a man prayed for him as the Lord told him to, and because the man was yet carnal, he began to cuss and swear. It seems to me that that was the only way he knew how to rejoice. Maybe he wasn’t yet born again….quite cold dead in trespasses and sins?
But now he knows something about Jesus. I suppose he’s on his way to the heavenly city now. I hope he is and that he gets there by Jesus.
correction, the line near the Romans verse (post 23) should read “as long as they Are in that condition.”
The only way we get to heaven is by the Lord Jesus Christ.
It’s been a while since I used to homebrew. I’ve forgotten a lot of things about it. It comes to me now that the temperature for the brewer’s yeast we used was a little cooler than luke-warm, but not by much.
@comment about yeast growing in only lukewarm temperatures — not in hot or cold…
wow… That is a good fact to know. I am going to employ it. What does “hot” or “cold” mean?
It reminds me of how God said that Israel was more faithful than Judah, because at least Israel didn’t PRETEND to come back to God; but departed from Him COMPLETELY.
Is that what it means to be cold? Is “hot”, then, the opposite?
I think so, Daniel.
The Lord is having me clean my appartment. It’s good for me to do it. It’s quite in need of it.
I suppose if we are completely cold, we won’t be doing any of the Lord’s work, but let’s think about what danger we will be in then.
Dan1el, Ray and others,
The kingdom of Heaven being leavened is a bad thing. Look at these parables that were grouped together.
Matthew 13
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do lawlessness;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear…
The kingdom of heaven gets corrupted…the seed of a small plant mutates into a tree that houses fouls (Symbolic of evil spirits or people). An enemy infiltrates the field with a false crop. A pure unleavened lump is leavened when a woman (Symbolic of religion) introduces leaven (Symbolic of false doctrine and sin).
Messiah says that the the greatest in the kingdom of heaven will be those that do and teach all the commandments. He told the religious leaders that they had made the commandments of YHWH of none effect by their traditions and doctrines of men. This is still happening today. Both Judaism and Christianity are putting leaven into the lump of dough through their man-made religion. So the kingdom of heaven suffers violence. Those attempting to enter the kingdom are being hindered by those that teach that breaking YHWH’s law is acceptable and by those that teach for doctrine the commandments of men. Those that work lawlessness and those that offend (cause others to break YHWH’s law) are gathered and burnt in the fire in the end. (Vs. 41-43 above) Those that do and teach YHWH’s law are great in the kingdom. (Mat. 5:17-19)
But these things are hidden/veiled from our eyes by the false teaching of the woman that has leavened the lump. Mystery Babylon is full of false doctrine, evil spirits, and evil people. She will be judged. We need to come out of her before it is too late.
Revelation 18
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Those that neglect to let YHWH write His law on their hearts are not in the new covenant. Do we love YHWH’s law? Do we keep it? If we do not keep it we do not have it written on our hearts. The lawbreakers will be excluded from the kingdom.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work lawlessness.
So calling YHWH Lord is more than lip service.
Luke 6
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Matthew 15
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Proverbs 28
9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Shalom
Dr. Brown, Hey what are your thoughts on the Roman Catholic belief that Mary is the Ark; also if you could comment on the Roman Catholic theology that states that Mary was without sin?
Thanks Lou
1. 13:1-23 Parable of the Sower
2. 24-30 Parable of Tares & Wheat
3. 31-32 Parable of Mustard Seed
4. 33 Parable of Leaven
5. 36-43 Explanation of Wheat & Tares
6. 44 Parable of Hidden Treasure
7. 45, 46 Parable of Costly Pearl
8. 47-50 Parable of Drag Net
1. The Parable of the Sower BEGAN the thought;
2. afterwards, He says, “yes, I began to sow; but another will come and sow heresies and mislead many.”
3. After, the Kingdom of Heaven is compared to a tree wherein “the birds of the air nest, and the beasts of the field live in its shade.” In Acts, you know that God said to Peter to “rise, kill and eat” unclean animals; to which Peter replied, “Lord, I’ve never eaten unclean food!” God says “do not call unclean what I have sanctified” — meaning that the reference to the “unclean animals” which Peter did not want to eat was actually “the Gentiles”. The (unclean) “birds of the air” nesting in that tree, and (unclean) “beasts of the field” under its branches, I believe, speaks to the fact that the Kingdom of God will become a home for the Gentiles, whom God has sanctified.
4. The Kingdom compared to yeast and three measures of flour reminds me of when Jesus said He will not return until the Gospel has been preached “in all the world as a witness, and then the end will come”.
I believe the preaching of the Gospel and making of disciples refers to “the leaven” of the Kingdom in this parable; comparable to the Parable which preceded it, because it speaks of “the nations” receiving salvation through Faith in Messiah.
He did not give parables grouped together that all meant the same thing. You can say that a person has eyes, and a person has ears, and they have a nose, and a mouth: I am not going to say this person has five mouths; but just because I am talking about the same person’s *different features* does not mean that I am not talking about the singular person. I don’t think that just because the parables are “together” means they are speaking about the same aspects of the Kingdom. There are many features!!
6+7. Right after the explanation of the Parable of Wheat & Tares, Christ uses two Parables to teach about how the Kingdom of God is something that “costs everything” (1. Hidden Treasure + 2.Pearl of Great Price);
8. then, He talks about a Parable that completes that thought — the Drag Net — wherein a warning is given: those who are not “good” (but, rather, “bad”) fish will be tossed out: those who did not ‘pay the price’ to enter the Kingdom of God (The Hidden Treasure and the Pearl of Great Price); but were only ‘hearers’; not ‘doers’ of the word — and will not enter the Kingdom of God.
This is my understanding/perspective of it; thanks for sharing yours’, Bo.
Bo,
As far as following the Torah for righteousness — if God “didn’t ‘think” (forgive the bad euphemism) I was holy/righteous, He never would’ve given me His Holy Spirit: my righteousness and holiness is based on faith in Christ ALONE.
Through faith in Him, I am cleansed and made pure; THEN God gives me His Spirit BECAUSE I AM HOLY; and I am holy, because I believe in Jesus!
Dan1el,
Is there a place in scripture that would indicate that leaven is not a type of sin when used in symbolic passages? Do you see the parallel between the passage in revelation about a woman that corrupts/leavens the lump. Do you see the parallel of the birds nesting in the branches of a mutated tree and the unclean and hateful birds in Revelation? We are to come out of Babylon.
Unleavened bread is symbolic of righteousness and truth. Leaven is symbolic of sin and false doctrine. The great in the kingdom will do and teach all of YHWH’s law/commandments. The only way to remain unleavened in the last days is to come out of the leavened lump. Even after doing this we must be careful to purge the leaven from our righteous assemblies or the whole lump will get leavened.
There is a difference between being made righteous and holy by faith and walking in righteousness and holiness. The Torah is not to obtain righteous standing, it is to teach us what is righteous and holy behavior. Those that have been made righteous by faith desire to walk in righteousness. The New Covenant produces a love for YHWH’s law. This is what the law written on our heart means.
We need faith in Messiah and to keep YHWH’s commandments.
Revelation 14
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Faith does not negate the law…neither does grace. The law still teaches us what sin is.
Romans 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Romans 3
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
When Paul says “God forbid” in the above passages, it is to clue us in to the fact that we should misunderstand him to be preaching against living according to YHWH’s righteous, just and good law.
1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
So as you can see, one who continues to sin is not righteous, even if he as made a confession of faith. Transgression of the law is still sin. So those that continue to transgress the law are continuing in sin. John says that they are of the devil.
It is a false doctrine that causes us to lay YHWH’s law aside. It is the woman leavening the lump. It is the enemy sowing tares. It is a mustard seed that has mutated into something it was never supposed to be.
Shalom
Bo,
Hey, I really appreciate your viewpoints, and the effort you must have put into it; but I disagree on this one point — I don’t think it can keep either of us from Heaven.
Is there a false church? Yep. Anyone who seeks the Truth knows — even many ‘non-believers’.
Thanks a lot brother; keep up your labors of love ;).
There is a leaven of the Pharisees and there is a leaven of Jesus. (Matt 13:33)
There are tares but there is also wheat among the tares. The tares have their leaven and the wheat have theirs also.
If you ever see a group of people by a fire, and you hear profanity, you know that there are tares.
But how do you know if there is any wheat?
Praise the Lord, and the tares will not bow their heads, though the atmosphere change by a word of praise to God.
I have a question. I think it has something to do with leaven.
Where do fish get their air bubbles from?
I think this verse speaks of leaven.
Matt 12:35.
I think it’s important what we store up. It seems to have the power to take us one way or another.
I believe Christ makes men righteous and it is a process. When we come to him with our sin, in our wretched condition, he clothes us with his righteousness. This grace causes us to rejoice, but we must keep his commandments, for as the scripture says, they that flatter their neighbor spreads a net for their feet. (Prov 29:5, Psalm 78:36)
I want to share this verse: Proverbs 27:21 KJV