Ok this is my cuestion,the soldier and his servant, Matthew 8:5 And when Jesus was come into Capernaum, a certain captain came to him with a request, 8:6 Saying, Lord, my servant is ill in bed at the house And becouse of his faith Matthew 8:13 And Jesus said to the captain, Go in peace; as your faith is, so let it be done to you. And the servant was made well in that hour., with no power in his body, and in great pain.
Now many are saying this was a homosesual relationship And thats my cuestion,whas it a homosesual relation,and if it was ,even if the soldier had faith,why not the answer like you are looking for me, for your own carnal purpuses
So this is my cuestion ,thanck again for your teachings and your work GOD bless you and those sarroundig you
Sergio,
It is a MONSTROUS misinterpretation of scripture to claim that Matthew 8 refers to a homosexual relationship. In fact, it is really a creation out of thin air with no biblical support. For a clear refutation, go here: http://robgagnon.net/articles/homosexCenturionStory.pdf.
Hi Dr Brown, Do you have another website for the above post? The one you gave is not working.
Debbie, erase the ‘period’ at the end of ‘pdf’ when it shows up in the browser, and it will work. 😀
Copy it without the period at the end and paste that in your browser, Debbie. That should work.
I used to believe that the boy was referring to a homosexual slave (but not the latter part of the argument: that He approved of that filth); thanks a lot for clearing that one up for me!
Thanks guys!!! I appreciate your help.
To isolate one passage and assume it means “X” is to ignore all other qualifying scripture altogether in forming such a position. The scriptures are “not broken”, but would be consistant with their other values. In fact, the bible is amazingly consistent in upholding its values, of which Homosexuality is not one. It starts in the law of Leviticus, as an abomination, and is picked up as such in the NT, clarified as such in the letters of Paul, Peter, and Jude.
Thank you dr brown,for this link you send,Im Shore it will be helpfull to everyone , now I can respond better if anyvody asks,I will say I totaly,totaly totaly agree with Dr michael brown, It is a MONSTROUS misinterpretation of scripture Thanks again GOD bless you
Wow. Actually read the article from the woman – how can someone be so deceived?
Very interesting. Jennifer Wright Knust is a Assistant Professor of New Testament and Christian Origins at Boston University. Plus she claims she is a Pastor too.
My daughter is in her 3rd year at Boston University. Her major is biomedical engineer. So, I highly doubt she is taking Jennifer’s class. Good thing she is not.
Jennifer is claiming that David and Johnathan were lovers??? David and Johnathan were best friends. Johnathan was married and had kids. When Johnathan died David took care of Mephibosheth (son of Johnathan) The whole story of this is in 2 Samuel 9:1-13.
Here are 2 quotes from Jennifer Wright Knust…
1)Paul’s letters urge followers of Christ to remain celibate and blame all Gentiles in general for their poor sexual standards. Jesus, meanwhile, says nothing at all about same-sex pairing, and when he discusses marriage, he discourages it.
2)It is therefore disturbing to hear some Christian leaders today claim that they have no choice but to regard homosexuality as a sin. They do have a choice and should be held accountable for the ones they are making.
Now she is pointing fingers at those who are saying homosexualtity is wrong and we should be held accountable for saying it is a sin.
This is another example of how the spirit of darkness works. The angel of light turning on his deceit.
Homosexualtity is a sin against the living God. Repent and become clean.
I mean, why not rather just say, ‘YES, WE ARE SINNING’?? Then it is easy to ask God for help!! I mean, Vissylia Schlink (sp?) said the Christian life of Christianity was one of constant repentance… why not just fear God and get His help?????
Maybe this is the inevitable fruit of all the Christians who are living a double-life, also not repenting of their sins and insisting that their Christianity is right, rather than repenting and ‘learning Christ’… because if all were anointed, this WOULDN’T be happening…
Another quote from Jennifer.
“Confident claims about the forms of sex rejected by God are also called into question by early Christian interpretations of the story of Sodom. From the perspective of the New Testament, it was the near rape of angels – not sex between men – that led to the demise of the city.”
She is basically saying that the reason the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah was because the men were trying to rape the angels. Which is another false doctrine from her teaching. The Lord sent the angels to take Lot and his family out of that city because the Lord had already planned on destroying it because of all the sinful activity going on.
What does this all tell us??? Check out 1Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Jennifer you should preach this…
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
and this…
Jude 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
Debbie, yes what a delusion — Abraham had to entreat God’s mercy on Sodom BEFORE the angels were ever sent!!
There’s just SO much wrong with her article, it is like a veritable feast of correction; its hard to know where to begin correcting!!!!
Daniel, I guess anyone can be called a bible scholar now a days. Pretty scary stuff.
Good post by the way. #13.
I find it interesting that Lot had direct relational access to exactly 10 people including himself. He failed his family and the whole city was lost.
Abraham bargained down to 10. Did he think that Lot should have been doing his job? Did he give up hope for Sodom at the point that a righteous man could not influence even his own family to walk in righteousness?
Is that when YHWH also gives up on a church, city, country, or world? Are we doing better than Lot?
Shalom
Dr. Brown,
Maybe I missed it, but I did not hear a clear refutation of polygamy. The 12 tribes of Israel came from polygamous relationships, two of which did not involve marriage at all. David had many wives. While God condemned David for his adulterous relationship, He appears to have remained silent on his polygamy. Further, Solomon through whom the Messiah came, was the result of a relationship built on adultary. It seems while God sent prophets to confront various Biblical figures for their various sins, as far as I can tell no prophet ever condemned polygomy over 1500 years. The only admonition appears to involve not marrying foreign wives so as not to become ensnared with their gods. While a king was not to multipy wives, it appears that no king was admonished for doing so. How do you explain this?
Lewis,
I didn’t get into a major discussion on polygamy on the show because it wasn’t a major point raised in the article. For my previous discussion on polygamy, see: http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/?s=polygamy or just search here for polygamy.
Since God made both male and female before the fall, yes, it was God’s ideal and perfect plan for mankind, also to be fruitful and multiply.
Boy, this is the definition of “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.” Nothing before David ever happened – it’s just old Jewish fairly tales. The point, as far as I am concerned, is that Jesus spoke out clearly on divorce but not on homosexuality or abortion, so the opposition to the first is cafeteria Christianity and the second selective interpretation.
@ Jesse
Oh alright, well what if a woman can’t carry a child. Is she then allowed to be with a man???
Ok this is my cuestion,the soldier and his servant,
Matthew 8:5 And when Jesus was come into Capernaum, a certain captain came to him with a request, 8:6 Saying, Lord, my servant is ill in bed at the house
And becouse of his faith Matthew 8:13 And Jesus said to the captain, Go in peace; as your faith is, so let it be done to you. And the servant was made well in that hour., with no power in his body, and in great pain.
Now many are saying this was a homosesual relationship
And thats my cuestion,whas it a homosesual relation,and if it was ,even if the soldier had faith,why not the answer like you are looking for me, for your own carnal purpuses
So this is my cuestion ,thanck again for your teachings and your work
GOD bless you and those sarroundig you
Sergio,
It is a MONSTROUS misinterpretation of scripture to claim that Matthew 8 refers to a homosexual relationship. In fact, it is really a creation out of thin air with no biblical support. For a clear refutation, go here: http://robgagnon.net/articles/homosexCenturionStory.pdf.
Hi Dr Brown,
Do you have another website for the above post? The one you gave is not working.
Debbie, erase the ‘period’ at the end of ‘pdf’ when it shows up in the browser, and it will work. 😀
Copy it without the period at the end and paste that in your browser, Debbie. That should work.
I used to believe that the boy was referring to a homosexual slave (but not the latter part of the argument: that He approved of that filth); thanks a lot for clearing that one up for me!
Thanks guys!!! I appreciate your help.
To isolate one passage and assume it means “X” is to ignore all other qualifying scripture altogether in forming such a position. The scriptures are “not broken”, but would be consistant with their other values. In fact, the bible is amazingly consistent in upholding its values, of which Homosexuality is not one. It starts in the law of Leviticus, as an abomination, and is picked up as such in the NT, clarified as such in the letters of Paul, Peter, and Jude.
Thank you dr brown,for this link you send,Im Shore it will be helpfull to everyone , now I can respond better if anyvody asks,I will say I totaly,totaly totaly agree with Dr michael brown, It is a MONSTROUS misinterpretation of scripture
Thanks again GOD bless you
Wow. Actually read the article from the woman – how can someone be so deceived?
Very interesting. Jennifer Wright Knust is a Assistant Professor of New Testament and Christian Origins at Boston University. Plus she claims she is a Pastor too.
My daughter is in her 3rd year at Boston University. Her major is biomedical engineer. So, I highly doubt she is taking Jennifer’s class. Good thing she is not.
Jennifer is claiming that David and Johnathan were lovers??? David and Johnathan were best friends.
Johnathan was married and had kids. When Johnathan died David took care of
Mephibosheth (son of Johnathan) The whole story of this is in 2 Samuel 9:1-13.
Here are 2 quotes from Jennifer Wright Knust…
1)Paul’s letters urge followers of Christ to remain celibate and blame all Gentiles in general for their poor sexual standards. Jesus, meanwhile, says nothing at all about same-sex pairing, and when he discusses marriage, he discourages it.
2)It is therefore disturbing to hear some Christian leaders today claim that they have no choice but to regard homosexuality as a sin. They do have a choice and should be held accountable for the ones they are making.
Now she is pointing fingers at those who are saying homosexualtity is wrong and we should be held accountable for saying it is a sin.
This is another example of how the spirit of darkness works. The angel of light turning on his deceit.
Homosexualtity is a sin against the living God. Repent and become clean.
I mean, why not rather just say, ‘YES, WE ARE SINNING’?? Then it is easy to ask God for help!! I mean, Vissylia Schlink (sp?) said the Christian life of Christianity was one of constant repentance… why not just fear God and get His help?????
Maybe this is the inevitable fruit of all the Christians who are living a double-life, also not repenting of their sins and insisting that their Christianity is right, rather than repenting and ‘learning Christ’… because if all were anointed, this WOULDN’T be happening…
Another quote from Jennifer.
“Confident claims about the forms of sex rejected by God are also called into question by early Christian interpretations of the story of Sodom. From the perspective of the New Testament, it was the near rape of angels – not sex between men – that led to the demise of the city.”
She is basically saying that the reason the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah was because the men were trying to rape the angels. Which is another false doctrine from her teaching. The Lord sent the angels to take Lot and his family out of that city because the Lord had already planned on destroying it because of all the sinful activity going on.
What does this all tell us??? Check out
1Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Jennifer you should preach this…
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination;
they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
and this…
Jude 7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
typo…It is Jude 1:7
Dr. Brown,
It’s pronounced “Ka-noost”
and here’s some audio for you.
http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Greater-Boston-11/episodes/Feb-15-2011Unprotected-Texts-author-Jennifer-Wright-Knust-25042
Debbie, yes what a delusion — Abraham had to entreat God’s mercy on Sodom BEFORE the angels were ever sent!!
There’s just SO much wrong with her article, it is like a veritable feast of correction; its hard to know where to begin correcting!!!!
Daniel,
I guess anyone can be called a bible scholar now a days. Pretty scary stuff.
Good post by the way. #13.
I find it interesting that Lot had direct relational access to exactly 10 people including himself. He failed his family and the whole city was lost.
Abraham bargained down to 10. Did he think that Lot should have been doing his job? Did he give up hope for Sodom at the point that a righteous man could not influence even his own family to walk in righteousness?
Is that when YHWH also gives up on a church, city, country, or world? Are we doing better than Lot?
Shalom
Dr. Brown,
Maybe I missed it, but I did not hear a clear refutation of polygamy. The 12 tribes of Israel came from polygamous relationships, two of which did not involve marriage at all. David had many wives. While God condemned David for his adulterous relationship, He appears to have remained silent on his polygamy. Further, Solomon through whom the Messiah came, was the result of a relationship built on adultary. It seems while God sent prophets to confront various Biblical figures for their various sins, as far as I can tell no prophet ever condemned polygomy over 1500 years. The only admonition appears to involve not marrying foreign wives so as not to become ensnared with their gods. While a king was not to multipy wives, it appears that no king was admonished for doing so. How do you explain this?
Lewis,
I didn’t get into a major discussion on polygamy on the show because it wasn’t a major point raised in the article. For my previous discussion on polygamy, see: http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/?s=polygamy or just search here for polygamy.
Since God made both male and female before the fall, yes, it was God’s ideal and perfect plan for mankind, also to be fruitful and multiply.
Boy, this is the definition of “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.” Nothing before David ever happened – it’s just old Jewish fairly tales. The point, as far as I am concerned, is that Jesus spoke out clearly on divorce but not on homosexuality or abortion, so the opposition to the first is cafeteria Christianity and the second selective interpretation.
@ Jesse
Oh alright, well what if a woman can’t carry a child. Is she then allowed to be with a man???