Precious friends, May I remind you, it’s not about the spirit or the scriptures, for the Holy Spirit is the one that wrote the scriptures. As for inerrancy, the (KJV) is my source, but if you have a hunger for god, don’t stop there. Listen …to sermons based on the word of god, and not of opinions. For I submit to you that, yes, the KJV has some words that could be changed to better it’s translation of the word of god. But I assure you the KJV bible is taken from the textus receptus. Many have tried to change the word of God to take away the deity of Jesus, and even change who Lucifer is in the bible by giving him our precious redeemer’s title, look at “Isaiah 14:12 ” in the (KJV) and compare it to what it says in the (NIV). And see the wilds of the Devil. And if you say you don’t see it, look in “Revelation 22:16.” And see our lord’s title being misused, and may God’s holy spirit reveal this truth to your heart and mind.
The days are sort my friends and the hour is late, we must know what our Heavenly Father has said, by his word (the bible), and then by his Holy Spirit may he reveal these meanings known to us. This is what the life of a christian is to be, to have a relationship with god through his son Jesus.To ever grow closer to God in love, getting to know him, and finally to share him to those we love and care about. We must also reach out even further past our loved ones, for the bible has made it clear that Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. There are many today without the LORD, thus I have taken the time to speak out, and tear my heart out to any of you willing to read this long winded answer. I pray that god open your eyes to see, and your ears to hear.
Act 19: 2-6 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Here we find a great answer to those that say, “how are we saved?” “Act 19: 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?” and then they replied to Paul in saying, “We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.” Here we find something interesting and what is so common today, they said they had not so much as heard that there was even a Holy Spirit. The key here isn’t that they were dunked in water again, but in the name of Jesus this time. But instead look back to the scriptures, and remember back to the man of Ethiopia, and Philip in “Acts 8:26-39” in it it says
Acts: 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Philip’s only requirement for baptism was if he believed with his whole heart, he could be Baptized. And as for just believing, and being saved by belief, it can’t just be any belief. For Jesus said in, “John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”
Here Jesus says if we are born of water and spirit, we may enter the Kingdom of god. In the bible, water is also know as the word of god/the Bible, “Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.”
As for the spirit part, “John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48 I am that bread of life. 49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
Now to put it all into focus, “John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” and the spirit is Jesus as well, “John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Here is what it’s saying, it’s saying you need both, you need the word of God, and God’s word. ^_^ My dear belovied friends that means you need Jesus, and the spoken words of god that are in the bible to be saved.
“Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
You must first hear the word of god through the bible, or by a preacher, and that is; that Jesus has bleed, suffered, and died to pay our sins,and the sins of the whole world, and by believing on Jesus, you can and will be saved, and be given eternal life.
“John10: 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.”
“2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
The LORD be with you all, amen.
Dr. Brown,
I would like to say that I believe whatever is Eloheem/God’s Word is His Word. So all His Words are perfect without any mistakes.
My thoughts then turn toward Chronicles, sometimes I wonder if everything that is in Chronicles is totally inspired/breathed by Eloheem/God.
Can you tell me who put Chronicles together, and when??????
There are different reasons that I wonder this.
My understanding is, and I could be wrong. It is interesting to note that the original Hebrew way to place Chronicles in the Tanach/O.C. is first or last in ketuvim/writings, whereas Samuel, & Kings which are very similiar are in neviim/prophets. The later two being placed in the neviim/prophets and Chronicles being placed in Ketuvim/writings currently is given last place.
Didn’t check these examples for myself, but I have noticed some things that appear to be contradictions in Chronicles before, when considering other Tanach/O.C. scriptures. Also I have been able to reconcile some scr.s when looking at the Peshita O.C., and Septuagint.
Higher Lower Description Parallel Passage Evaluation of Chronicles
a 1Chr 11:11 300 slain by Jashobeam, not 800 2Sa 23:8
b 1Chr 18:4 Hadadezer’s 1,000 chariots and 7,000 horsemen, not 1,000 and 700 horsemen 2Sa 8:4
c 1Chr 19:18a 7,000 Syrian charioteers slain, not 700 2Sa 10:18a
d 1Chr 19:18b and 40,000 foot soldiers, not horsemen 2Sa 10:18b
e 1Chr 21:5a Israel’s 1,100,000 troops, not 800,000 2Sa 24:9a
f 1Chr 21:5b Judah’s 470,000 troops, not 500,000 2Sa 24:9b I say(this could be a general statement, because being exact doesn’t have to be done)
g 1Chr 21:12 Three years of famine, not seven 2Sa 24:13
h 1Chr 21:25 Ornan paid 600 gold shekels, not 50 silver 2Sa 24:24
i,j 2Chr 2:2,18 3,600 to supervise the temple construction, not 3,300 1Kg 5:16
k 2Chr 2:10 20,000 baths of oil to Hiram’s woodman, not 20 kors (=200 baths) 1Kg 5:11
l 2Chr 3:15 Temple pillars 35 cubits, not 18 1Kg 7:15
m 2Chr 4:5 Sea holding 3,000 baths, not 2,000 1Kg 7:26
n 2Chr 8:10 250 chief officers for building the temple, not 550 1Kg 9:23
o 2Chr 8:18 450 gold talents from Ophir, not 420 1Kg 9:28
p 2Chr 9:16 300 gold bekas per shield, not 3 minas 1Kg 10:17
q 2Chr 9:25 4,000 stalls for horses, not 40,000 1Kg 4:26
r 2Chr 22:2 Ahaziah king at 42 years, not 22 2Kg 8:26
s 2Chr 36:9 Jehoiachin king at 8, not 18 2Kg 24:8
Are there any Bibles in which the generations add up as Matthew 1:17 says?
I used to tell people that the Bible doesn’t have any errors in it. I suppose I did so because that’s what I had often heard.
I don’t do that anymore. I’d rather be a survivor even if that means finding herbs and things.
I get in my vehicle each day and it’s not without it’s faults. It’s not perfect. It’s got a few hundred thousand miles on it, but I don’t stay out of it just because it’s not perfect. If I did, I wouldn’t get where I need to go. It’s got plenty of parts that work well enough. They get road tested each day. It doesn’t have to be perfect to get me where I need to be. It does quite well by the grace of God. I don’t think it would be right to depend on it alone.
I think the day it was made it was about as perfect as it was supposed to be. If I saw it the way it was the day it was new I don’t think I would find anything wrong with it.
Even if I found something I didn’t like, there wouldn’t be anything wrong with it, necessarily, would there be?
Funny how a man might not read a Bible if he thinks it has too many errors in it, but then will get in the thing he drives everyday and think nothing of it.
Ray,
When you are referring to Matt. 1:17 what are you referring too? I don’t see anything incorrect with that.
I surely would like to have brother Brown, comment on what I wrote though, because he is so educated with documents.
Ray, the geneology does not “add up” in Matthew because that was not the point of geneologies in ancient near eastern culture (you will also find many such “problems” in O.T. geneologies). Geneoogies were generally written with societal or even theological motives behind them, especially with regards to the number of generations. It is not always complete clear to western readers of the 21st century what the exact purpose of a particular geneology is, as we tend to view geneologies in a very different way. The geneology in Matthew was probably primarily intended to show Jesus as the perfect fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic promises. For a good introductory treament to this, as well as other related subjects, I recomend Sandra Richter’s “Epic of Eden”.
Precious friends, May I remind you, it’s not about the spirit or the scriptures, for the Holy Spirit is the one that wrote the scriptures. As for inerrancy, the (KJV) is my source, but if you have a hunger for god, don’t stop there. Listen …to sermons based on the word of god, and not of opinions. For I submit to you that, yes, the KJV has some words that could be changed to better it’s translation of the word of god. But I assure you the KJV bible is taken from the textus receptus. Many have tried to change the word of God to take away the deity of Jesus, and even change who Lucifer is in the bible by giving him our precious redeemer’s title, look at “Isaiah 14:12 ” in the (KJV) and compare it to what it says in the (NIV). And see the wilds of the Devil. And if you say you don’t see it, look in “Revelation 22:16.” And see our lord’s title being misused, and may God’s holy spirit reveal this truth to your heart and mind.
The days are sort my friends and the hour is late, we must know what our Heavenly Father has said, by his word (the bible), and then by his Holy Spirit may he reveal these meanings known to us. This is what the life of a christian is to be, to have a relationship with god through his son Jesus.To ever grow closer to God in love, getting to know him, and finally to share him to those we love and care about. We must also reach out even further past our loved ones, for the bible has made it clear that Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. There are many today without the LORD, thus I have taken the time to speak out, and tear my heart out to any of you willing to read this long winded answer. I pray that god open your eyes to see, and your ears to hear.
Act 19: 2-6 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Here we find a great answer to those that say, “how are we saved?” “Act 19: 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?” and then they replied to Paul in saying, “We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.” Here we find something interesting and what is so common today, they said they had not so much as heard that there was even a Holy Spirit. The key here isn’t that they were dunked in water again, but in the name of Jesus this time. But instead look back to the scriptures, and remember back to the man of Ethiopia, and Philip in “Acts 8:26-39” in it it says
Acts: 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Philip’s only requirement for baptism was if he believed with his whole heart, he could be Baptized. And as for just believing, and being saved by belief, it can’t just be any belief. For Jesus said in, “John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”
Here Jesus says if we are born of water and spirit, we may enter the Kingdom of god. In the bible, water is also know as the word of god/the Bible, “Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.”
As for the spirit part, “John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48 I am that bread of life. 49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
Now to put it all into focus, “John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” and the spirit is Jesus as well, “John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Here is what it’s saying, it’s saying you need both, you need the word of God, and God’s word. ^_^ My dear belovied friends that means you need Jesus, and the spoken words of god that are in the bible to be saved.
“Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
You must first hear the word of god through the bible, or by a preacher, and that is; that Jesus has bleed, suffered, and died to pay our sins,and the sins of the whole world, and by believing on Jesus, you can and will be saved, and be given eternal life.
“John10: 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.”
“2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
The LORD be with you all, amen.
Dr. Brown,
I would like to say that I believe whatever is Eloheem/God’s Word is His Word. So all His Words are perfect without any mistakes.
My thoughts then turn toward Chronicles, sometimes I wonder if everything that is in Chronicles is totally inspired/breathed by Eloheem/God.
Can you tell me who put Chronicles together, and when??????
There are different reasons that I wonder this.
My understanding is, and I could be wrong. It is interesting to note that the original Hebrew way to place Chronicles in the Tanach/O.C. is first or last in ketuvim/writings, whereas Samuel, & Kings which are very similiar are in neviim/prophets. The later two being placed in the neviim/prophets and Chronicles being placed in Ketuvim/writings currently is given last place.
Didn’t check these examples for myself, but I have noticed some things that appear to be contradictions in Chronicles before, when considering other Tanach/O.C. scriptures. Also I have been able to reconcile some scr.s when looking at the Peshita O.C., and Septuagint.
http://bible.org/article/introduction-first-and-second-chronicles
Higher
Lower
Description
Parallel Passage
Evaluation of Chronicles
a
1Chr 11:11
300 slain by Jashobeam, not 800
2Sa 23:8
b
1Chr 18:4
Hadadezer’s 1,000 chariots and 7,000 horsemen, not 1,000 and 700 horsemen
2Sa 8:4
c
1Chr 19:18a
7,000 Syrian charioteers slain, not 700
2Sa 10:18a
d
1Chr 19:18b
and 40,000 foot soldiers, not horsemen
2Sa 10:18b
e
1Chr 21:5a
Israel’s 1,100,000 troops, not 800,000
2Sa 24:9a
f
1Chr 21:5b
Judah’s 470,000 troops, not 500,000
2Sa 24:9b
I say(this could be a general statement, because being exact doesn’t have to be done)
g
1Chr 21:12
Three years of famine, not seven
2Sa 24:13
h
1Chr 21:25
Ornan paid 600 gold shekels, not 50 silver
2Sa 24:24
i,j
2Chr 2:2,18
3,600 to supervise the temple construction, not 3,300
1Kg 5:16
k
2Chr 2:10
20,000 baths of oil to Hiram’s woodman, not 20 kors (=200 baths)
1Kg 5:11
l
2Chr 3:15
Temple pillars 35 cubits, not 18
1Kg 7:15
m
2Chr 4:5
Sea holding 3,000 baths, not 2,000
1Kg 7:26
n
2Chr 8:10
250 chief officers for building the temple, not 550
1Kg 9:23
o
2Chr 8:18
450 gold talents from Ophir, not 420
1Kg 9:28
p
2Chr 9:16
300 gold bekas per shield, not 3 minas
1Kg 10:17
q
2Chr 9:25
4,000 stalls for horses, not 40,000
1Kg 4:26
r
2Chr 22:2
Ahaziah king at 42 years, not 22
2Kg 8:26
s
2Chr 36:9
Jehoiachin king at 8, not 18
2Kg 24:8
Are there any Bibles in which the generations add up as Matthew 1:17 says?
I used to tell people that the Bible doesn’t have any errors in it. I suppose I did so because that’s what I had often heard.
I don’t do that anymore. I’d rather be a survivor even if that means finding herbs and things.
I get in my vehicle each day and it’s not without it’s faults. It’s not perfect. It’s got a few hundred thousand miles on it, but I don’t stay out of it just because it’s not perfect. If I did, I wouldn’t get where I need to go. It’s got plenty of parts that work well enough. They get road tested each day. It doesn’t have to be perfect to get me where I need to be. It does quite well by the grace of God. I don’t think it would be right to depend on it alone.
I think the day it was made it was about as perfect as it was supposed to be. If I saw it the way it was the day it was new I don’t think I would find anything wrong with it.
Even if I found something I didn’t like, there wouldn’t be anything wrong with it, necessarily, would there be?
Funny how a man might not read a Bible if he thinks it has too many errors in it, but then will
get in the thing he drives everyday and think nothing of it.
Ray,
When you are referring to Matt. 1:17 what are you referring too? I don’t see anything incorrect with that.
I surely would like to have brother Brown, comment on what I wrote though, because he is so educated with documents.
Ray, the geneology does not “add up” in Matthew because that was not the point of geneologies in ancient near eastern culture (you will also find many such “problems” in O.T. geneologies). Geneoogies were generally written with societal or even theological motives behind them, especially with regards to the number of generations. It is not always complete clear to western readers of the 21st century what the exact purpose of a particular geneology is, as we tend to view geneologies in a very different way. The geneology in Matthew was probably primarily intended to show Jesus as the perfect fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic promises. For a good introductory treament to this, as well as other related subjects, I recomend Sandra Richter’s “Epic of Eden”.