I watched the video that was posted and others from the brownsville rivival.It looked as though God was moving mightily.Wish I could have been there.Also,just finished reading [A time for Holy Fire].One of the best books I’ve ever read.The church I attend is having a revival next week and I would appreciate your prayers.
Bob T.,
Let’s pray that God would really do something next week at your church. They can schedule “revival” meetings, but they can’t schedule real revival!
Amen
Revival comes from heaven when heroic souls enter the conflict determined to win or die-or if need be, to win and die! “The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. Author: Charles Finney We do well to remember that it takes the supernatural to burst the bands of the natural. Will we allow our unbeleif rule us or will we be fools for Christ sake and let Jesus {The Great Revivalist} walk the earth in us…
Thank you for sharing one thing you have been burdened with, re: authentic change through revival meetings. You mentioned the goal of transformation being before all of us. You mentioned the presence of the Spirit making a difference in so authenticating such meetings’ “movement” changing lives thereafter over time. I am curious where you would find such meetings and their testimony in the New Testament? I can find ministries, gifts, radical admonitions for those who are getting into error in that timeframe, but, greater advice to become gentler, and more Christlike in our interchanges with others, and God (and to abandon the fruit of the flesh in the process).
Isn’t this kind of transformation what the letters of the New Testament are advocating for the most part, as more vital than big meetings? Even, as you raised, in diescerning the Spirit of truth vs. the spirit of error?
On this broadcast you charted the meetings which transformed many attendees, started new beginnings, commitments, and even some entering ministry from that point of contact. As I read the Gospels on the Church, it seems that Holiness is measured in the two instructions Jesus gave in direct regard to how it would carry His gathering into relationships. 1) By acceptance and faith in the Good News and its beginning transformation, and, 2) By the seeking and finding of direct 1:1 and larger pursuits of reconciliation. (Mt. 16, and Mt. 18 accordingly). Where did Jesus measure faith, and how, and where does he measure revival, and how?
Thank you for sharing one thing you have been burdened with, re: authentic change through revival meetings. You mentioned the goal of transformation being before all of us. You mentioned the presence of the Spirit making a difference in so authenticating such meetings’ “movement” changing lives thereafter over time. I am curious where you would find such meetings and their testimony in the New Testament? I can find ministries, gifts, radical admonitions for those who are getting into error in that timeframe, but, greater advice to become gentler, and more Christlike in our interchanges with others, and God (and to abandon the fruit of the flesh in the process).
Isn’t this kind of transformation what the letters of the New Testament are advocating for the most part, as more vital than big meetings? Even, as you raised, in discerning the Spirit of truth vs. the spirit of error?
On this broadcast you charted the meetings which transformed many attendees, started new beginnings, commitments, and even some entering ministry from that point of contact. As I read the Gospels on the Church, it seems that Holiness is measured in the two instructions Jesus gave in direct regard to how it would carry His gathering into relationships. 1) By acceptance and faith in the Good News and its beginning transformation, and, 2) By the seeking and finding of direct 1:1 and larger pursuits of reconciliation. (Mt. 16, and Mt. 18 accordingly). Where did Jesus measure faith, and how, and where does he measure revival, and how?
I listened to Dr. Browns sermon [spirtual hunger]from the link Free Rivival Resources.I agree with everything said. Especially revival and the state of the church in this country.He speaks the truth.
Dr. Brown,
I enjoyed the broadcast. I appreciated the rules for testing the revival. I think it is so easy to be caught up in emotion such that the measure of truth becomes how we feel about things. There needs to be objective verification of truth claims. And while I realize that your audience ranges from agnostics to committed Christians such that you must tread with care in the experiential, it is nice to see you get show your roots. I am somewhat surprised that there are not more comments on this show.
When the church moves in God’s way, will we not then begin to see God move his way also? Gen 18:19 KJV Where are the judges, the deliverers? Who pleads the cause? (Jer 22:3,4) Has the church been doing this work? If not, why not? Does God want this work undone? Hasn’t he shown us how to do this in the scriptures? Are we presently being trained to do this? Who do people go to when there is an injustice among them? Who among us hears the matters? Would we see God be with the judges? Would we see the ministry of reconciliation? Who will find out what is right? Who will plead for mercy? Will they do so without partiality? Will it be done without hypocrisy? Did Job enjoin God his way? (Job 36:23) Did Job see God work? (Job 29) The cross Jesus Will people line up for the kingdom of heaven? Will they come to an understanding of the gospel? Will they come to know Jesus? Will they partake of the fruit of the Spirit? Will they be changed? Will their eyes be opened by God? Will they become more like Jesus through this change? Will they hunger for what is right? Won’t they be filled? Will they give it to others? Won’t it revive us? Won’t God restore us?
The LORD STATED certain ways and preoccupations which robbed of Kingdom advancement. These included the love of money, dissipation, strife, and the burdens of this life. Having one’s ongoing preparation for His coming so absorbed by the cares we all can bear, or the desires of this life too inhibit revival. Just so, faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. We become what we give our attention to. Let it be Jesus.
We don’t have a revival because preachers don’t really study and they steal their messages from each other. Nobody questions their ‘scholarship’. For instance, one poster cited a FALSE citation, “Revival comes from heaven when heroic souls enter the conflict determined to win or die-or if need be, to win and die! “The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.Author: Charles Finney” -Now Finney never SAID that. It’s NOT in his works anywhere. It ***SOUNDS*** Finney-like, but it wasn’t him. I found 574 hits on that fabricated citation. Some say Zinzendorf, Wesley and Praying Hyde said it. I don’t know. I am a leading authority on Finney’s works. Revival is not the result of leading people to EXPECT it or even to pray for it. It comes when sin is exposed and repentance for forgiveness is preached. That is the cost.
I watched the video that was posted and others from the brownsville rivival.It looked as though God was moving mightily.Wish I could have been there.Also,just finished reading [A time for Holy Fire].One of the best books I’ve ever read.The church I attend is having a revival next week and I would appreciate your prayers.
Bob T.,
Let’s pray that God would really do something next week at your church. They can schedule “revival” meetings, but they can’t schedule real revival!
Amen
Revival comes from heaven when heroic souls enter the conflict determined to win or die-or if need be, to win and die! “The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Author: Charles Finney
We do well to remember that it takes the supernatural to burst the bands of the natural. Will we allow our unbeleif rule us or will we be fools for Christ sake and let Jesus {The Great Revivalist} walk the earth in us…
Thank you for sharing one thing you have been burdened with, re: authentic change through revival meetings. You mentioned the goal of transformation being before all of us. You mentioned the presence of the Spirit making a difference in so authenticating such meetings’ “movement” changing lives thereafter over time. I am curious where you would find such meetings and their testimony in the New Testament? I can find ministries, gifts, radical admonitions for those who are getting into error in that timeframe, but, greater advice to become gentler, and more Christlike in our interchanges with others, and God (and to abandon the fruit of the flesh in the process).
Isn’t this kind of transformation what the letters of the New Testament are advocating for the most part, as more vital than big meetings? Even, as you raised, in diescerning the Spirit of truth vs. the spirit of error?
On this broadcast you charted the meetings which transformed many attendees, started new beginnings, commitments, and even some entering ministry from that point of contact. As I read the Gospels on the Church, it seems that Holiness is measured in the two instructions Jesus gave in direct regard to how it would carry His gathering into relationships. 1) By acceptance and faith in the Good News and its beginning transformation, and, 2) By the seeking and finding of direct 1:1 and larger pursuits of reconciliation. (Mt. 16, and Mt. 18 accordingly). Where did Jesus measure faith, and how, and where does he measure revival, and how?
Thank you for sharing one thing you have been burdened with, re: authentic change through revival meetings. You mentioned the goal of transformation being before all of us. You mentioned the presence of the Spirit making a difference in so authenticating such meetings’ “movement” changing lives thereafter over time. I am curious where you would find such meetings and their testimony in the New Testament? I can find ministries, gifts, radical admonitions for those who are getting into error in that timeframe, but, greater advice to become gentler, and more Christlike in our interchanges with others, and God (and to abandon the fruit of the flesh in the process).
Isn’t this kind of transformation what the letters of the New Testament are advocating for the most part, as more vital than big meetings? Even, as you raised, in discerning the Spirit of truth vs. the spirit of error?
On this broadcast you charted the meetings which transformed many attendees, started new beginnings, commitments, and even some entering ministry from that point of contact. As I read the Gospels on the Church, it seems that Holiness is measured in the two instructions Jesus gave in direct regard to how it would carry His gathering into relationships. 1) By acceptance and faith in the Good News and its beginning transformation, and, 2) By the seeking and finding of direct 1:1 and larger pursuits of reconciliation. (Mt. 16, and Mt. 18 accordingly). Where did Jesus measure faith, and how, and where does he measure revival, and how?
I listened to Dr. Browns sermon [spirtual hunger]from the link Free Rivival Resources.I agree with everything said. Especially revival and the state of the church in this country.He speaks the truth.
Dr. Brown,
I enjoyed the broadcast. I appreciated the rules for testing the revival. I think it is so easy to be caught up in emotion such that the measure of truth becomes how we feel about things. There needs to be objective verification of truth claims. And while I realize that your audience ranges from agnostics to committed Christians such that you must tread with care in the experiential, it is nice to see you get show your roots. I am somewhat surprised that there are not more comments on this show.
When the church moves in God’s way, will we not then begin to see God move his way also?
Gen 18:19 KJV
Where are the judges, the deliverers?
Who pleads the cause? (Jer 22:3,4)
Has the church been doing this work?
If not, why not?
Does God want this work undone?
Hasn’t he shown us how to do this in the scriptures?
Are we presently being trained to do this?
Who do people go to when there is an injustice among them?
Who among us hears the matters?
Would we see God be with the judges?
Would we see the ministry of reconciliation?
Who will find out what is right?
Who will plead for mercy?
Will they do so without partiality?
Will it be done without hypocrisy?
Did Job enjoin God his way? (Job 36:23)
Did Job see God work? (Job 29)
The cross
Jesus
Will people line up for the kingdom of heaven?
Will they come to an understanding of the gospel?
Will they come to know Jesus?
Will they partake of the fruit of the Spirit?
Will they be changed?
Will their eyes be opened by God?
Will they become more like Jesus through this change?
Will they hunger for what is right?
Won’t they be filled?
Will they give it to others?
Won’t it revive us?
Won’t God restore us?
The LORD STATED certain ways and preoccupations which robbed of Kingdom advancement. These included the love of money, dissipation, strife, and the burdens of this life. Having one’s ongoing preparation for His coming so absorbed by the cares we all can bear, or the desires of this life too inhibit revival. Just so, faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. We become what we give our attention to. Let it be Jesus.
We don’t have a revival because preachers don’t really study and they steal their messages from each other. Nobody questions their ‘scholarship’. For instance, one poster cited a FALSE citation, “Revival comes from heaven when heroic souls enter the conflict determined to win or die-or if need be, to win and die! “The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.Author: Charles Finney”
-Now Finney never SAID that. It’s NOT in his works anywhere. It ***SOUNDS*** Finney-like, but it wasn’t him. I found 574 hits on that fabricated citation. Some say Zinzendorf, Wesley and Praying Hyde said it.
I don’t know. I am a leading authority on Finney’s works. Revival is not the result of leading people to EXPECT it or even to pray for it. It comes when sin is exposed and repentance for forgiveness is preached. That is the cost.