March 18, 2010

Dr. Brown’s Appreciation of Calvinism and Answers to E-Questions (including, Was Jesus Wealthy?)

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  1. Yes, Yes. The anchoring effect that you spoke about in relation to the Calvinist is analogous to the [body] the discussion of God. I believe God desires, freedom to find Him. I enjoy that approach it seems to me when we debate our God anchored in the truth that he is God alone that frees us from the bondage of being [always] correct and allows His Spirit to renew our minds to His revelation… enjoying the debate class that is being held in the school of Christ ~love tom

  2. I want to thank Dr. Brown for his comments.

    Also, I’d like to say that Calvinism comprehends well the veraciousness and tenacity of belief in God according to the Scripture because it points out the Scripture’s teaching of the all defining nature of God. It focuses in on what the Scripture mean by saying that all things were created by Jesus and for Him and back to Him, and how that without Him nothing was created that was created and in Him all things continue to hold together.

    In other words, it loves to see God glorified in the dependance of all creation and humanity on Him, absolutely.

    This is of course believed generally by non-Calvinists but it is just more known and experienced in Calvanistic understanding of the Scriptures.

    Thanks

  3. Maybe we should be appreciative of certain Calvinist men of God rather than of their doctrine. The doctrine does damage to the glory of God and the glory of men. It veils the love of God and the partnership God calls us into. While we pray and seek unity, how can we appreciate their error that hurts the Bride of Christ??

  4. Have tried to get in contact with Dr. White many times regarding a book called “Did Calvin Murder Servetus” by Stanford Rives.

    Is Dr. White aware of this book and the arguments for John Calvin [whom I believe is a hero to Dr. White] being an Arian?

    Here are excerts from the book you can read in full free here: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=MlPrYQ5srKEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=did+calvin+murder+servetus&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

    Caroli, first Doctor of the Sorbonne and pastor at Lausanne[1], “objected because [the Confession of Faith of Geneva] did not contain the words Trinity or Person…”[2] In his letter of February 1537—the month of this trial of Calvin—Pastor Caroli wrote: “Away with new confessions and let us rather subscribe to these three creeds”, i.e., Apostle’s Creed (140A.D.), the Nicene Creed (325A.D.) and the Athanasian Creed (9th Century).”[3]

    Calvin responded: “We have pledged ourselves to faith in the One God, not to faith in Athanasius, whose Creed was never received the approbation of any rightful church.”[4]

    …it is important to note that Calvin never backed down. He refused to agree to alter the Geneva Confession or to sign on to the Nicene and Athanasian Creeds to the displeasure of the pastors at Starsbourg, including the famous Lutheran Pastor Bucer.” pp 213-215

    Footnotes
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    [1] Fn. 404…Caroli had joined the Protestant cause, causing him to lose his teaching post. He later became a Protestant pastor. When Caroli laid the charge against Calvin, Calvin at first said “it was a few days ago I dined with Carol; I was then his very dear brother.”…Hence, Calvin had no doubt of Caroli’s authenticity of being a Protestant right up to the time Caroli made his accusation. Calvinists try to insinuate that Pastor Caroli was an intense Protestant all along. This is unfair. Rather, Caroli made his Protestantism contingent on it not rejecting the trinity doctrine. This was his litmus tests. When Bucer would not back up orthodoxy on the trinity, Caroli returned to Catholicism.

    [2] Thomas Henry Dyer, The Life of John Calvin (Harper, 1855) at 67.

    [3] Gaston Bonet-Maury & Edward P. Hall, Early Sources of English Unitarian Christianity (1884) at 16 fn. 20, citing A. L. Herminjard, Correspondance des reformateurs dans les pays de langue francais (Geneva: 1878) Vol. 4, at 185.

    [4] Id. Citing Herminhard, supra, Vol. 4, at 185.

  5. Dr. White is well aware of the theories and claims of “Calvin murdering Servetus”, the historical facts, drawn out by historical evidence refutes any claim of “murder”. Servetus was executed as a result of his unitarian heresy by the civil authorities of Geneva, over whom Calvin held no sway. Death penalty was a common punishment for heresy in the 17th century and Servetus himself had escaped a Roman Catholic prison before finding his way to Geneva, where he was warned not to go.

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